Age Gap - And -When to draw the line. - Page 4

1bad65 · 03-22-2010, 05:50 PM

Way too much age gap.

If they are still dating in two years, is she going to let a 27 year old guy take her to her prom?!

1bad65 · 03-22-2010, 05:52 PM

WadeWilson · 03-22-2010, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1bad65

"I get older and they stay the same age."

Ambitious09 · 03-22-2010, 10:31 PM

Forget it. I'm 21 and I won't touch a girl if she isn't 18. Do some of the girls in high school look like they're older yeah, especially with how they dress, but you have to draw a line. 25 dude is out of school, hopefully, got a career going and is moving forward with his life while she's still guessing what she wants to do and where she wants to be in five years.

2000v6 · 03-22-2010, 10:56 PM

The way that I see it is that if someone is 18-25 then he can go out with and date an 18 year old. But... if someone is over 25... then they need to get their head checked.

Also, your friend will be in some deep s*it, if her parents find out, even a good lawyer won't save him, not to mention that a good lawyer won't even seriously think about taking on such a case.

He's screwed. 16 is too young. She's still a child. What kind of grown man (even if he's still a young adult) be doing with a 16 year old. An 18 year old is legally an adult, though not technically. I mean honestly, an 18 year old can't even buy alcohol unlike everywhere else. But a person that did a 16 year old deserves an ass whoopin and some jail time.

bluch · 03-22-2010, 11:07 PM

your age / 2 +7

this formula rules all

ron10 · 03-22-2010, 11:08 PM

let's see,he is 25 and she is 16.what does that bring to mind?oh yea i remember.................RAPE-RAPE-RAPE.

Asylum · 03-23-2010, 12:27 AM

Since I am the OP i believe its only fair that I clarify things perhaps a bit more

1.) This person is not a FRIEND of mine and the person this in regards to is actually a friend of someone I work with. Thus I don't actually know the person at all.

2.) The AGE of consent in Ontario is currently 16 years of age. Regardless of the age bracket, so long as the person you engage in sexual activity with is 16 or above, and is willing... specifically willing it's legal. There is no twist around this.

3.) The age of consent for ANAL sex is still 18 in Ontario Canada.

4.) From what I've been told these two people the 25 year old and the 16 year old like eachother, hang out together, spend time together everyday, and again to my knowledge have not in any way fooled around. Then again, I dont think they would admit it either.

5.) Extremes such as people being 14 when their spouse was 6 is irrelevant in all honesty... arguments need to be made given the situation at hand.. not with unnecessary examples that don't fully contribute to the conversation at hand. I feel that to really answer this inquiry it would be more appropriate to deal with the 25 & 16 debate.. not the 35 & 26 or the 20 & 11 debate.

6.) My answer to the person who asked me about this situation is simple.. and I may take some heat for this...

If I was 'friends' with a 16 year old, and I was like an older brother to them then I dont see a problem with it.. however these two are clearly interested in a relationship / romantic sense. Given that information I think that if they can find a way to make it work... this means

Parents know, on both sides and support it
Friends and family know about it, and both are ok with it
Both people are willing to go through a LOT of belittling and questioning for SEVERAL years to come.
As long as both parties realise that college / university, drinking, 'life' really hasn't fully been experienced

Then sure.

However, my final comment is this.
If the 25 year old, makes it a point to get in this girls head and keep her interested enough to form a relationship then great job... you've just robbed her of experiencing all that life had to offer for his own benefit

Though I suppose if they did work things out and form a relationship no matter how ludacris teh idea is.. and if they really dont care for anyone elses oppinions and are truly happy.... and its more than just a lay for the guy and no manipulation is involved.. then good luck?

lol, I just wonder though..
What happens at 1:00am when they get stopped by the police, and the smell of alcohol sifts through the air and the ID's come out...
25... .16.....

lol, this is a great topic though... some people have actually responded in favor and saying who gives a crap its their life do what they want...

Keep on posting people.. btw. Ive been showing this thread to the guy who asked me for advice to relay to his friend... Sadly I still think the two people this thread is pointed at are still spending tiem together, and from what Ive gathered they are actually really freaking happy..

I dont get it..
Maybe their mormon... dont go out? dont do anything? no sex no nothing
Who knows.

PQ · 03-23-2010, 12:55 AM

3 is a little disturbing.

Could you edit the last few lines? (F-word)

And, I stand by my original post. But now I gotta say, tell your coworker to tell his freind to get some freinds.

Also, and I'm not being a smart alec, or condecending, but serious; is either of the two, mentaly challenged in some way. Bypolar, retarded, depressed, overly introverted, etc...... Reason I ask is the obvious, and I guess I'm thinking more him than her. She may not realize he's not all there, and it can only end badly. Wether he messes up with any number of things, or she grows up and realizes his condition.

IF and I say IIIFFFFF, they were to stay together and make it actually work, they would have to grow together. If he's incapable, and my money is on him not being, then it's doomed.

But, again, if I was her father, I'd put a end to this in a second. There is something wrong with him. He's at least got self esteem issues.

*DGthe3* · 03-23-2010, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asylum

2.) The AGE of consent in Ontario is currently 16 years of age. Regardless of the age bracket, so long as the person you engage in sexual activity with is 16 or above, and is willing... specifically willing it's legal. There is no twist around this.

Here is what is on the department of justice's website:

The Criminal Code protects 16 and 17 year olds against sexual exploitation, where the sexual activity occurs within a relationship of trust, authority, dependency or where there is other exploitation. Whether a relationship is considered to be exploiting the 16 or 17 year old will depend upon the nature and circumstances of the relationship, e.g., the age of the young person, the age difference between the young person and their partner, how the relationship developed and how the partner may have controlled or influenced the young person. As well, 16 and 17 year olds cannot consent to sexual activity that involves prostitution or pornography.

now, that is only one factor, but it is clearly a factor.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asylum

4.) From what I've been told these two people the 25 year old and the 16 year old like eachother, hang out together, spend time together everyday, and again to my knowledge have not in any way fooled around. Then again, I dont think they would admit it either.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asylum

I haven't been provided with the whole situation, but from what i understand he was lied to, they spent time together, shit happened and they fooled around. She told him the truth, or so i have been told

which is it?

Asylum · 03-23-2010, 01:18 AM

Apparently they kissed that was it... but like I said I dont know them.. broken telephone game.

As for the F bombs, editing now..
Im tired :(

chris725 · 03-23-2010, 01:23 AM

YEAAAAAAH NO Im 19 turnin 20 in a few months and I think that 26-16 is waaaaaaaaay to big a diff although thats really gotta suck that he was lied to and developed feelings

blackknight · 03-23-2010, 01:27 AM

i dont care how "mature" a 16 year old might seem...they are still 16 years old, immature as they come, moody, irresponsible, doubtful, needy, afraid, dramatic, juvenile,and naive, . i say that a 25 year old dating a 16 year old is dumb and stupid. Date people within 2-3 years of your own age and that works fine.

I am 22, and am dating a 20 year old. sometimes i feel that 2 year difference is unbearable. i could hardly depict a 9 year difference.

2000v6 · 03-23-2010, 01:30 AM

The second law is total bs. 16? Legal consent?

At 16 everyone still lives with their parent/parents. It's kind of like here in the states, as long as a person who is somewhere around 16 (depends what state, county, city/town, etc.) consents, then it does count as perfectly normal and legal permission to sexual consent. But when the parents find out, of course their perfect little "angel" denies the fact that she consented. Also, haven't there been enough cases in which first the girl agrees to consent with the guy, but when the parents find out, the guy is accused of rape, and 9 times out of 10 spends some jail time.

03-22-2010, 11:07 PM	#48
bluch OH CANADA! Drives: 2011 RAM 1500 LARAMIE Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB, CAN Posts: 3,930 View My Garage	your age / 2 +7 this formula rules all __________________ Had to trade in the Camaro for a truck :(, but hopefully I can join the Camaro family again one day

03-23-2010, 12:27 AM	#50
Asylum Account Suspended Drives: 2010 2SS RS Black on Black Manual 6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Brampton Posts: 441	Since I am the OP i believe its only fair that I clarify things perhaps a bit more 1.) This person is not a FRIEND of mine and the person this in regards to is actually a friend of someone I work with. Thus I don't actually know the person at all. 2.) The AGE of consent in Ontario is currently 16 years of age. Regardless of the age bracket, so long as the person you engage in sexual activity with is 16 or above, and is willing... specifically willing it's legal. There is no twist around this. 3.) The age of consent for ANAL sex is still 18 in Ontario Canada. 4.) From what I've been told these two people the 25 year old and the 16 year old like eachother, hang out together, spend time together everyday, and again to my knowledge have not in any way fooled around. Then again, I dont think they would admit it either. 5.) Extremes such as people being 14 when their spouse was 6 is irrelevant in all honesty... arguments need to be made given the situation at hand.. not with unnecessary examples that don't fully contribute to the conversation at hand. I feel that to really answer this inquiry it would be more appropriate to deal with the 25 & 16 debate.. not the 35 & 26 or the 20 & 11 debate. 6.) My answer to the person who asked me about this situation is simple.. and I may take some heat for this... If I was 'friends' with a 16 year old, and I was like an older brother to them then I dont see a problem with it.. however these two are clearly interested in a relationship / romantic sense. Given that information I think that if they can find a way to make it work... this means Parents know, on both sides and support it Friends and family know about it, and both are ok with it Both people are willing to go through a LOT of belittling and questioning for SEVERAL years to come. As long as both parties realise that college / university, drinking, 'life' really hasn't fully been experienced Then sure. However, my final comment is this. If the 25 year old, makes it a point to get in this girls head and keep her interested enough to form a relationship then great job... you've just robbed her of experiencing all that life had to offer for his own benefit Though I suppose if they did work things out and form a relationship no matter how ludacris teh idea is.. and if they really dont care for anyone elses oppinions and are truly happy.... and its more than just a lay for the guy and no manipulation is involved.. then good luck? lol, I just wonder though.. What happens at 1:00am when they get stopped by the police, and the smell of alcohol sifts through the air and the ID's come out... 25... .16..... lol, this is a great topic though... some people have actually responded in favor and saying who gives a crap its their life do what they want... Keep on posting people.. btw. Ive been showing this thread to the guy who asked me for advice to relay to his friend... Sadly I still think the two people this thread is pointed at are still spending tiem together, and from what Ive gathered they are actually really freaking happy.. I dont get it.. Maybe their mormon... dont go out? dont do anything? no sex no nothing Who knows. Last edited by Asylum; 03-23-2010 at 01:18 AM.

03-23-2010, 12:55 AM	#51
PQ Booooosted. Drives: 2010 Supercharged SS Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 36,717 View My Garage	3 is a little disturbing. Could you edit the last few lines? (F-word) And, I stand by my original post. But now I gotta say, tell your coworker to tell his freind to get some freinds. Also, and I'm not being a smart alec, or condecending, but serious; is either of the two, mentaly challenged in some way. Bypolar, retarded, depressed, overly introverted, etc...... Reason I ask is the obvious, and I guess I'm thinking more him than her. She may not realize he's not all there, and it can only end badly. Wether he messes up with any number of things, or she grows up and realizes his condition. IF and I say IIIFFFFF, they were to stay together and make it actually work, they would have to grow together. If he's incapable, and my money is on him not being, then it's doomed. But, again, if I was her father, I'd put a end to this in a second. There is something wrong with him. He's at least got self esteem issues. __________________

03-22-2010, 05:50 PM	#43
1bad65 Banned Drives: 2007 Mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Austin Posts: 1,148	Way too much age gap. If they are still dating in two years, is she going to let a 27 year old guy take her to her prom?!

03-22-2010, 05:52 PM	#44
1bad65 Banned Drives: 2007 Mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Austin Posts: 1,148

03-22-2010, 10:31 PM	#46
Ambitious09 Drives: 07 Cobalt LT/2008 Ram SXT Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Memphis Posts: 92 View My Garage	Forget it. I'm 21 and I won't touch a girl if she isn't 18. Do some of the girls in high school look like they're older yeah, especially with how they dress, but you have to draw a line. 25 dude is out of school, hopefully, got a career going and is moving forward with his life while she's still guessing what she wants to do and where she wants to be in five years.

03-22-2010, 10:56 PM	#47
2000v6 Drives: 2003 m3, 2000 camaro v6, 2004 s4 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: ny Posts: 1,125 View My Garage	The way that I see it is that if someone is 18-25 then he can go out with and date an 18 year old. But... if someone is over 25... then they need to get their head checked. Also, your friend will be in some deep s*it, if her parents find out, even a good lawyer won't save him, not to mention that a good lawyer won't even seriously think about taking on such a case. He's screwed. 16 is too young. She's still a child. What kind of grown man (even if he's still a young adult) be doing with a 16 year old. An 18 year old is legally an adult, though not technically. I mean honestly, an 18 year old can't even buy alcohol unlike everywhere else. But a person that did a 16 year old deserves an ass whoopin and some jail time.

03-22-2010, 11:08 PM	#49
ron10 Drives: 2010 2SS IOM L99 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: LOUISVILLE,KY.. Posts: 7,545	let's see,he is 25 and she is 16.what does that bring to mind?oh yea i remember.................RAPE-RAPE-RAPE.

03-23-2010, 01:18 AM	#53
Asylum Account Suspended Drives: 2010 2SS RS Black on Black Manual 6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Brampton Posts: 441	Apparently they kissed that was it... but like I said I dont know them.. broken telephone game. As for the F bombs, editing now.. Im tired :(

03-23-2010, 01:23 AM	#54
chris725 I love my camaro ^_^ Drives: All black 2011 2ss/rs m6 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: spokane Posts: 68	YEAAAAAAH NO Im 19 turnin 20 in a few months and I think that 26-16 is waaaaaaaaay to big a diff although thats really gotta suck that he was lied to and developed feelings

03-23-2010, 01:27 AM	#55
blackknight Camaro Lover Drives: 2014 GMC Sierra 5.3L Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago 'Burbs Posts: 709	i dont care how "mature" a 16 year old might seem...they are still 16 years old, immature as they come, moody, irresponsible, doubtful, needy, afraid, dramatic, juvenile,and naive, . i say that a 25 year old dating a 16 year old is dumb and stupid. Date people within 2-3 years of your own age and that works fine. I am 22, and am dating a 20 year old. sometimes i feel that 2 year difference is unbearable. i could hardly depict a 9 year difference.

03-23-2010, 01:30 AM	#56
2000v6 Drives: 2003 m3, 2000 camaro v6, 2004 s4 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: ny Posts: 1,125 View My Garage	The second law is total bs. 16? Legal consent? At 16 everyone still lives with their parent/parents. It's kind of like here in the states, as long as a person who is somewhere around 16 (depends what state, county, city/town, etc.) consents, then it does count as perfectly normal and legal permission to sexual consent. But when the parents find out, of course their perfect little "angel" denies the fact that she consented. Also, haven't there been enough cases in which first the girl agrees to consent with the guy, but when the parents find out, the guy is accused of rape, and 9 times out of 10 spends some jail time.