Svt mustang 750hp !!!!!!! - Page 4

*Camaro_Corvette* · 07-15-2014, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by v8

Here is the quote:
"A General Motors spokesman indicated that that automaker has no plans to try to approach the Hellcat's horsepower output, at least in a Camaro."

Here is the link to the article:
http://money.cnn.com/2014/07/02/auto...html?hpt=hp_c3

I think the horsepower war is going to be between Dodge and Ford for the muscle cars. That quote makes me think there may be a killer vette in the future, but nothing more for the Camaro

Yep, an GM doesn't talk about future products either. Which means we still know nothing.

*Camaro_Corvette* · 07-15-2014, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by woodside783

Couldn't agree more. I can't wait for the new z06 to come out so the price if the old will come down and I can get one.

I am waiting there with you.

woodside783 · 07-15-2014, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by RubyCamaro

In addition to or instead of your Camaro???????

Addition
Camaro is never leaving

truth411 · 07-15-2014, 11:37 AM

On topic, I can believe Ford coming out with a 700+ hp mustang, but it weighing 3500lbs is a pipe dream!!! The 2.3 ecoboost Stang weighs more than that.

shank0668 · 07-15-2014, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Camaro_Corvette

Yep, an GM doesn't talk about future products either. Which means we still know nothing.

Yeah they had no plans for a Z06 and what happened about a month later?

Todd in Vancouver · 07-15-2014, 12:20 PM

I Hope GM steps up because a lot of people are not as brand loyal as they use to be. We will see what happens with Mustang and Challenger while we wait for Gen6 in the sales numbers. At the end of the day GM is in it to sell cars and if consumers don't buy because other brands are offering more power then GM will not have a choice. They HAVE to sell, if HP stops them from selling then GM will add HP.

72MachOne99GT · 07-15-2014, 12:51 PM

I dont think Ford or GM need to sell 700hp cars to make money.

Their bread and butter is trucks and suvs and midsize cars.

Sure, they get some trickle and cross shopping when these monsters bring people to dealerships, but they're just as big of luxuries for them to sell as they are for us to buy.

DanSS24 · 07-15-2014, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 72MachOne99GT

I dont think Ford or GM need to sell 700hp cars to make money.

Their bread and butter is trucks and suvs and midsize cars.

Sure, they get some trickle and cross shopping when these monsters bring people to dealerships, but they're just as big of luxuries for them to sell as they are for us to buy.

What he said...

Avenging Orange · 07-15-2014, 03:19 PM

For me (and I'm a minority), its not about how much HP you can stuff under the hood. Its more about handling, build quality, styling, comfort......and feeling. Its about the feeling I get about a car........what 'moves' me. As for the Hellcat........I think it will be a beast. I think many will be pleasantly suprised at how well it handles. I think there were some major suspension upgrades. But the Challenger has just never done it for me. I was so in hopes of a 'Cuda rebirth. As for Ford...they lost me with the new Mustang body style...too common to every other Ford. But I digress. Its good to see the competition heating up. I think it forces car manufacturers to build a better product.

BaylorCamaro · 07-15-2014, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Avenging Orange

For me (and I'm a minority), its not about how much HP you can stuff under the hood. Its more about handling, build quality, styling, comfort......and feeling. Its about the feeling I get about a car........what 'moves' me.

Agreed.

shine2013 · 07-15-2014, 04:31 PM

Seriously think GM should think about taking a page out of Dodge's book. The Hellcat Challenger stepped on the Viper's foot and the Camaro can do the same. Sure the Corvette is actually selling, but it's also lighter. So what if the HP is a little higher in the Camaro, or close to the Vette? The lighter weight will win out won't it?

Ford is lucky, Dodge too since the Viper bombed, because they can focus their efforts into one performance car.

hotlap · 07-15-2014, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by shine2013

Seriously think GM should think about taking a page out of Dodge's book. The Hellcat Challenger stepped on the Viper's foot and the Camaro can do the same. Sure the Corvette is actually selling, but it's also lighter. So what if the HP is a little higher in the Camaro, or close to the Vette? The lighter weight will win out won't it?

Ford is lucky, Dodge too since the Viper bombed, because they can focus their efforts into one performance car.

I agree with the first part but not the second. Chevy Performance has soo much more than Ford or Dodge with the Vette and they gave us four performance versions of the gen5 Camaro. The other guys can only wish. I don't believe the Camaro will be ignored in gen6

macwest · 07-15-2014, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by shine2013

Seriously think GM should think about taking a page out of Dodge's book. The Hellcat Challenger stepped on the Viper's foot and the Camaro can do the same. Sure the Corvette is actually selling, but it's also lighter. So what if the HP is a little higher in the Camaro, or close to the Vette? The lighter weight will win out won't it?

Ford is lucky, Dodge too since the Viper bombed, because they can focus their efforts into one performance car.

GM is heading into third place. I doubt they will better ford or dodge this next round. Dodges new scheme makes for a buyers dream on how they have set up the challenger for additions. When you look at the packages it is like a build your own custom car.

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Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

I agree with the first part but not the second. Chevy Performance has soo much more than Ford or Dodge with the Vette and they gave us four performance versions of the gen5 Camaro. The other guys can only wish. I don't believe the Camaro will be ignored in gen6

not to start a argument but in my own opinion I feel GM totally jacked us on not letting us get all parts from z/28 and I don't believe they will better themselfs going forward.

Bhobbs · 07-15-2014, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

I agree with the first part but not the second. Chevy Performance has soo much more than Ford or Dodge with the Vette and they gave us four performance versions of the gen5 Camaro. The other guys can only wish. I don't believe the Camaro will be ignored in gen6

Ignored? No. Handicapped? Yes.

07-15-2014, 12:20 PM	#48
Todd in Vancouver Drives: 2014 ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 1,538 View My Garage	I Hope GM steps up because a lot of people are not as brand loyal as they use to be. We will see what happens with Mustang and Challenger while we wait for Gen6 in the sales numbers. At the end of the day GM is in it to sell cars and if consumers don't buy because other brands are offering more power then GM will not have a choice. They HAVE to sell, if HP stops them from selling then GM will add HP. __________________ Todd in Vancouver '14 ZL1 Camaro '67 Camaro SS Pro-tour in process How hard can it be... Check out my other build http://www.pro-touring.com/threads/9...ject-Obsession

07-15-2014, 03:19 PM	#51
Avenging Orange Drives: 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Clermont, IN Posts: 3,297	For me (and I'm a minority), its not about how much HP you can stuff under the hood. Its more about handling, build quality, styling, comfort......and feeling. Its about the feeling I get about a car........what 'moves' me. As for the Hellcat........I think it will be a beast. I think many will be pleasantly suprised at how well it handles. I think there were some major suspension upgrades. But the Challenger has just never done it for me. I was so in hopes of a 'Cuda rebirth. As for Ford...they lost me with the new Mustang body style...too common to every other Ford. But I digress. Its good to see the competition heating up. I think it forces car manufacturers to build a better product. __________________ 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS M6 Black Leather, Sun Roof, OBX Headers, Borla touring axle back, Cold Air Inductions CAI , non synthetic fluids, BMR total bushing upgrade/1" lowering springs, DSE 32mm rear sway bar. GM fe4 shocks/struts/LCA's, AAM 3.91 diff, Vertini RFS1.8 20x9 +30. Conti ExtremeContact Sport 275/35/20. sjm autoprod ABL dash kit. Mike Norris tuned 413/419. Avenging Orange: 43 years of not buying into the Hype........and damn proud of it!! https://youtu.be/9JD9it6SmB8 https://youtu.be/xmelTlEzI34 KICKING CANCERS ASS SINCE 2015!!

07-15-2014, 11:37 AM	#46
truth411 Drives: 2022 SS 1LE Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Austin, tx Posts: 1,302	On topic, I can believe Ford coming out with a 700+ hp mustang, but it weighing 3500lbs is a pipe dream!!! The 2.3 ecoboost Stang weighs more than that.

07-15-2014, 04:31 PM	#53
shine2013 Drives: 2008 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Memphis Posts: 378	Seriously think GM should think about taking a page out of Dodge's book. The Hellcat Challenger stepped on the Viper's foot and the Camaro can do the same. Sure the Corvette is actually selling, but it's also lighter. So what if the HP is a little higher in the Camaro, or close to the Vette? The lighter weight will win out won't it? Ford is lucky, Dodge too since the Viper bombed, because they can focus their efforts into one performance car.