NKorea threatens US

[drivingincamaro]

I think were safe we got 3 layers of protection


Future weapons thaad missile defense system

screw nukes we have the moab

[Zabo]

So CGI UAVs and pewpew lazors? DOOD WWIII IS GONNA BE KICKASS! Now we all need to find the transform buttons on our camaros..

[lakers171]

saw this today on yahoo. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_koreas_nuclear

[lakers171]

lets see hawaii would be the first one if they attacked i would be second since im in los angeles anyone in the east coast need a roomate with a garage for my camaro?

[MrIcky]

If you do lock the thread, can you make a sticky and put all the Team America videos in it? They make me happy.

[MrIcky]

Just chillin' with some Cristal and some bitches, dawg

[GatorBlue371]

Originally Posted by lakers171

lets see hawaii would be the first one if they attacked i would be second since im in los angeles anyone in the east coast need a roomate with a garage for my camaro?

Im in florida



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Premptive strike anyone?


figure the US has to know WHERE the missles are being kept.... Bomb the only places in the country capable of launching missles. It is unlikely that North Korea has an Adv. defense for missles of these sorts. You cut off the stingers, and the stingray becomes a flounder.

[CanadianRocky]

China supplies North Korea with close to 70% of its fuel and 40% of its food.

And yet, it has very little leverage over what North Korea does and does not do.

That being true, then the reason why the Chinese are doing this is to simply prop up the current regime.

Why do that?

It could be as simple as them not wanting an overthrow of the North Korean rulers which might lead to a unification of North and South Korea such as what happened in Germany.

If that happened, then they would have a Democracy on their border.

Sure, the North Korean power base is what is provoking what is going on right now, but don't be fooled, this is the result of policies set in Beijing.

[ShnOmac]

Originally Posted by CanadianRocky

The two biggest threats in the world today are Pakistan and North Korea.

It shocks me to no end how little the west knows about them.

"Bring it?" - well, you just sentenced 25,000 Americans to death. And untold South Koreans.

"There boned" - of course they are, but the collateral damage will be significant.

"i wonder if they realize America has a missile defense shield" - they don't care.

"Terrorism would be a problem" - The vast majority of Koreans in the west are from South Korea, and they hate the North Korean regim, and the few of the North Koreans that have gotten out, probably thank God every day that they did.

This is not the USSR before the wall fell.

This is Hitler in the bunker in 1945 when he knew he has lost and condemned his country to ruin rather than surrender. The difference is that there was no fight left in the Germans, the army was in ruin, he was out of gas, and he did not have nukes.

X 1000
25000 Americans is prob on the low side........

[SScattergunSS]

The biggest problem we have with N. Korea, are the several thousand artillery pieces they have within range of the the south's capital. Once the shooting starts, we just couldn't eliminate 'em all before they lay waste to it.

Even though that little guy over there running the show is a nut, he's smart enough to know how inexperienced our current administration is, and will push hard trying to find out what all he can get away with. He knows our leader is weak, and doesn't have the stomach for a real fight. Because of this capitulationist attitude he believes us to be controlled by, this whole situation could get out of hand in a hurry.

If the shooting does start, it would get real nasty. Due to the logistics of it all, the north simply could not win...(assuming our administration will allow our armed forces to fight up to their fullest capabilities)...but they could make us bleed...BADLY!

My father was over there at the tail end of the war just before the cease-fire took effect. There wasn't one good thing he had to say about the entire Korean peninsula. In fact, he called it the armpit of the world. He said the whole country literally stunk. The land was completely worthless, agriculturally speaking. The people were the ugliest people he's ever seen before or since. And the rats in those bunkers gorging themselves on the bodies, really were the size of small dogs. And they weren't afraid of you when you walked up to 'em...they'd actually challenge you instead. He couldn't wait to get out of there and back to Japan.

[TFord]

Originally Posted by The_Blur

I'm surprised to see no moderation in this thread.

I want to post a general warning. Politics has been banned from Camaro5. Be careful not to associate your patriotism with any political party or values that would represent a political agenda.

With that in mind, I will go ahead and point some things out regarding North Korea.

North Korea is technically still at a state of war with the United States because no peace treaty was ever signed after the Korean War. It is therefore feasible to conclude that the executive branch of the United States has the constitutional authority to initiate any act of war with North Korea at any time. In other words, President Obama does not need to seek Congressional approval in order to engage North Korea.

North Korea has weapons of mass destruction. Besides any nuclear material in the possession of this particular government, North Korea has a substantial chemical weapons arsenal. These weapons will make any conventional conflict with the nation very dangerous for troops. If the US is going to invade North Korea, these weapons will inflict massive casualties on American troops and North Korean civilians. It is possible that the press will hold the US accountable for such casualties, so it is important that any campaign is swift and decisive. With such a closed nation, intelligence is limited, so finding and destroying these weapons before their use is unlikely. In effect, it is reasonable to consider that an engagement with North Korea, while necessary, will be damaging to the image of the United States and those running its government because the use of weapons of mass destruction will inflict potentially massive casualties.

North Korea is a rogue state. Without any significant alliances, North Korea could not reasonably expect to win a major international conflict. The most likely allies for North Korea are Iran, Venezuela, Palestine, and Syria. Palestine has no military, and Syria would not engage the US without other Middle Eastern support because it has an impotent military force. Venezuela would seek agreements with OPEC nations to reduce oil output in a passive attempt to sanction the US, but Venezuela would not engage. Iran would only engage the US defensively because Iran has enough domestic turmoil that its military would be very occupied if a war happened in the coming weeks. North Korea, therefore, is largely alone. Even China is uneasy with North Korea's nuclear pursuits. The war would have at least two fronts, and then North Korea would fold. South Korea would unify with North Korea to form a new nation with increased influence in the region. That nation would likely follow a similar development path as the reunified Germany. North Korea will always follow South Korea industrially, but it will be part of a unified nation with a single democratic identity. In conclusion, if war breaks out in Korea, North Korea will lose. It might not be quick, but it will happen.

Man, you always steal my thunder! Also being as I've spent my entire adult life working on our nuclear weapons system, if they are dumb enough to start something with the U.S. or our allies.....My god, have mercy on their souls. Not only would they have first row seats to absolute destuction, there would be nothing they could do to stop it.

Originally Posted by Zabo

So CGI UAVs and pewpew lazors? DOOD WWIII IS GONNA BE KICKASS! Now we all need to find the transform buttons on our camaros..

[CanadianRocky]

Originally Posted by TFord

Not only would they have first row seats to absolute destuction, there would be nothing they could do to stop it.

And the second row of seats is Japan. Any nuclear attack on Korea will lead to massive death by radiation poisoning in Japan.

Japan is directly West of North Korea and the wind flows East/West.

And the third row of seats is the USA.

It is the next land mass and radiation poisoning will effect the US as well.

Don't be so sure the US would even respond with Nukes even if the NK's used them.

First off all, they have no delivery system that is reliable, and their Nukes would be low yield, so they end up being the dying charge of a wounded animal.

Why would the US use the Nukes if it would do as much damaged to the USA as it did to NK as in food, water and human health issues?

Why would the US use the Nukes when conventional weapons would do the job as well, without the radiation issues?

Now, you may not care about this point, but even if the NK's used Nukes, and the US retaliated by "Blowing them back into the Dark Ages", the US will become an international pariah.

If the NKs use Nukes, you can bet the USA and the rest of the world will respond with devastating force.

One of the reasons is so that the Iranians, the Taliban, and every other Terrorist out there knows that the penalty for using them on the US or its Allys is something that is so prohibitive in cost that no one will consider using them again.

[drivingincamaro]

Originally Posted by CanadianRocky

And the second row of seats is Japan. Any nuclear attack on Korea will lead to massive death by radiation poisoning in Japan.

Japan is directly West of North Korea and the wind flows East/West.

And the third row of seats is the USA.

It is the next land mass and radiation poisoning will effect the US as well.

Don't be so sure the US would even respond with Nukes even if the NK's used them.

First off all, they have no delivery system that is reliable, and their Nukes would be low yield, so they end up being the dying charge of a wounded animal.

Why would the US use the Nukes if it would do as much damaged to the USA as it did to NK as in food, water and human health issues?

Why would the US use the Nukes when conventional weapons would do the job as well, without the radiation issues?

Now, you may not care about this point, but even if the NK's used Nukes, and the US retaliated by "Blowing them back into the Dark Ages", the US will become an international pariah.

If the NKs use Nukes, you can bet the USA and the rest of the world will respond with devastating force.

One of the reasons is so that the Iranians, the Taliban, and every other Terrorist out there knows that the penalty for using them on the US or its Allys is something that is so prohibitive in cost that no one will consider using them again.

the M.O.A.B is just as good

we also got this

[CanadianRocky]

Originally Posted by drivingincamaro

the M.O.A.B is just as good

we also got this

Exactly.

And, and this is a big AND, we have used Nukes before. We know what they will do.

Me thinks the Pentagon would LOVE to try out the new stuff, on a place that EVERYONE in the world hates.