GM's Reuss says rear-wheel drive Scion FR-S rival "on the list"

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by proxemics

they need to use the fox body formula (small + Light + decent look+ accept V8 engine = winner)

Uh no.

[Apex Motorsports]

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

Doesn't anyone ever look at obscure laws and find out if they no longer apply and get them changed?

I mean if people can attack our highest laws constantly, can't someone work on overturning some of the less sensible ones first?

(Not that I think continued production of the Kappa was a good idea, but the G8 should have been a no brainer)

I have been saying for a long time that we need a law that simply says,

"For every new law enacted, Congress must eliminate one existing law.".

[The_Blur]

Let's put the pieces together:

• Alpha is the new go-to performance RWD platform.
• Alpha weighs significantly less than Zeta, making it a unique replacement.
• Alpha can accomodate lots of engines, including turbo 4-cylinders and 8-cylinders.
• The Camaro will be on Alpha.

Imagine a car that prices below the FR-S ($25,500) and has similar attributes. Imagine a car a little smaller than the current Camaro. Imagine it with 4 cylinders and a turbo.

It's the entry level new Camaro. I'd bet on it.

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by Apex Chase

I have been saying for a long time that we need a law that simply says,

"For every new law enacted, Congress must eliminate one existing law.".

That's BRILLIANT!

We should do that for regulations too!

(And we have to word it so that they can't cheat by inserting new clauses into the ones they get rid of and calling them 'new'.

[Muscle Car Memories]

I hope Chevy builds it!

[dorfmac]

I just started telling my gf to look at the BRZ. If they release a turbo for the 2014 I'm really gonna get on her... Once she gets over the fact that this Subaru isn't meant for tree hugging trial mix eating liberals it's a possibility

Not sure how Chevy can pull something like this off that is as aesthetically pleasing. I think Chevy can outperform, but its gotta look just as good too...

[Fiveg56]

http://www.subarubrzforum.com/9-suba...z-rival-d.html

[THUMPER20X]

That has to be one of the ugliest cars GM has ever bothered with. Its horrible form every angle. Looks like some India crap from TATA motors. I think a hardtop Saturn Sky redux would be the best. Call it a Corvair Z24 or something. That 130 is wretched.

[Ken_]

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

Smart idea! Get the youngins' interested then they'll move up when they can afford more. But if they use the above design to go against the FRS game over. It has to be a sleek designed car.

The FR-S is slow, but it wasn't meant to be fast. It's a handling car that shows it's stripes in autocross and other similar events. That car in the picture looks like the car Nissan was contemplating over 5 years ago as an entry level RWD to debut in 2010, but that got scrapped and pushed back, and now there's talk of re-inventing the 370Z into a smaller platform because of the entry price it takes just to get into the 370Z, and additionally they don't want too many models that may have a tendency to compete against each other. The current Z costs just as much as an SS and the GTR is up there with the Corvette. Anyway, wrong place, wrong time.

[Apex Motorsports]

Keep in mind, Reuss only said GM was looking at creating a FRS fighter. The AutoBlog writer is who suggested it might take the shape of the 130R concept. I disagree with that suggestion.

[COPO_Chevy]

Originally Posted by The_Blur

Let's put the pieces together:

• Alpha is the new go-to performance RWD platform.
• Alpha weighs significantly less than Zeta, making it a unique replacement.
• Alpha can accomodate lots of engines, including turbo 4-cylinders and 8-cylinders.
• The Camaro will be on Alpha.

Imagine a car that prices below the FR-S ($25,500) and has similar attributes. Imagine a car a little smaller than the current Camaro. Imagine it with 4 cylinders and a turbo.

It's the entry level new Camaro. I'd bet on it.

That's exactly what I was thinking..

[Fiveg56]

Originally Posted by Ken_

The FR-S is slow

Um...no. It's not necessarily fast...but you can't say it is slow.

[Ken_]

Originally Posted by Fiveg56

Um...no. It's not necessarily fast...but you can't say it is slow.

Having driven it more than a few times in the guise of an FT-86 Middle East Spec on the street and in autocross, I can say it is. The magic of its handling in autocross is where its strengths are. It wasn't intended to be a track terror. It is what it is, and I did start out in the AE86, which is where the FT-86/FR-S' roots are, just like our 5th Gens take their cue from the 1st Gens, and the AE86 was not a fast car, but on the autocross, it shined.

Sure, when Toyota/Subaru decide to plant a forced-induction system in it, I am pretty certain it won't be slow, but then it may take away from that "magic" feel of a car in the sweeps and apexes that the FT-86/FR-S tries to recapture in the spirit of the AE86. Anyway, it is what it is.