Holden Ute comes to US as ElCamino! - Page 4

MikeSVX · 01-07-2013, 01:17 PM

Question is would "If it comes to the U.S. will they put a Camaro front end on it?"

Angrybird 12 · 01-07-2013, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeSVX

Question is would "If it comes to the U.S. will they put a Camaro front end on it?"

it would probably have the SS front end on it.

drummer5679 · 01-07-2013, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by _Nick_

Am I the only one who thinks the Holden Ute is hideous?

hideously awesome.

05stram · 01-07-2013, 04:23 PM

I'd buy one loved my El Camino - the thing that killed the El Camino was not demand but it being classed as a car when the MPG requirements and emissions thing kicked in. I could see it coming back with it now being able to be classified as a SUV or CXV

rez333 · 01-07-2013, 05:05 PM

That's a really nice shape! Car looks only so-so though.

Ice Demon · 01-07-2013, 06:39 PM

If it look exactly like this with a chevy emblem it should be a winner.

Angrybird 12 · 01-07-2013, 06:39 PM

I miss my El Camino......

*Mr. Wyndham* · 01-07-2013, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Whoa, whoa, hold up there.

Nobody said it would. In fact I'm pretty sure GM said the other day they were just routinely renewing trademarks.

The Ute does have a program code for North America but the business case needs to be made first and the program approved.

IIRC, under the ultra-performance-friendly Bob Lutz reign...this idea was visited...and promptly killed.

Ken_ · 01-10-2013, 02:11 PM

Those Holden Utes are no joke. Z06 engine in a car that weighs less than the 5th Gen, and this was back in 2008. Sure, the import crowd will probably be the first to grab them up if they do come to the USA. We already have them, but not as Utes. They are Chevy Lumina CSV CR8 here in the Middle East and mid-sized sedans. We never had the US Lumina POS front-wheel drive. It all started with the Holden Monaro, which was brought over to the USA as the Pontiac G60 GTO for a few years, and then graduated to the front facade that you see with the Holden Ute. Can you see where the ZL1 front facade idea was taken from the CR8?

SSBUSDRVR · 01-10-2013, 04:01 PM

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Can you see where the ZL1 front facade idea was taken from the CR8?

Yes not to get too far OT isn't that what Chevy Runs in the Touring Car Series? Would be nice to see the Utes come to the US and run the truck series.

Ken_ · 01-11-2013, 01:45 AM

They run the Holden Commodore sedan, and the Ute chassis is technically a Commodore. The Australian Touring Car Series ended some time ago, and was replaced/merged with the Australian V8 Supercar Series. They run it in the Middle East in Abu Dhabi, Bahrain and I think Qatar and Saudi Arabia, as well. I admire the cars.

I think if they were to bring the Ute to the USA and run it in the truck series, it would definitely be contested before it ever got on the track because of the definition of a truck. Could it be a crossover/hybrid? These are things well above my head, but I am fairly certain that if it were able to run in the series, it would mop the place up.

By the way, Nissan is entering the Supercar series with a V8 RWD Altima for the 2013 series. I believe Mercedes may also be doing the same. I guess Toyota kicked started this whole thing with the Camry in NASCAR and other leagues are following suit. It's all fairly interesting.

Lawdog1911 · 01-11-2013, 02:12 AM

I remember the O'Brein (sp) racing team in San Antonio. They ran and won with El Caminos. He said they had great balance.

MLL67RSSS · 01-11-2013, 07:17 AM

The Pontiac G8 'ute was initially planned to come here. But the economic melt down, poor GTO/G8 sales, and possibly the fact that insiders knew that Pontiac may be going away meant there was no business case for the investment to go through all the federal certifications.
One thought though, they made a case for the SSR, and that certainly was a low-volume specialized vehicle.

Ken_ · 01-11-2013, 07:49 AM

That's a shame because the Commodore-based G8 was a beautiful sedan with plenty of power, and it lives on as the Commodore with the same style line/shape.

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01-07-2013, 01:17 PM	#43
MikeSVX The magic smoke genie.... Drives: Jewels (2010 RJT 1SS) Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Escondido, CA Posts: 2,294	Question is would "If it comes to the U.S. will they put a Camaro front end on it?"

01-07-2013, 04:23 PM	#46
05stram Drives: 2013 RS - 2013 2SS/RS - 1971 RS Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,027	I'd buy one loved my El Camino - the thing that killed the El Camino was not demand but it being classed as a car when the MPG requirements and emissions thing kicked in. I could see it coming back with it now being able to be classified as a SUV or CXV

01-07-2013, 05:05 PM	#47
rez333 Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: St. Joseph Posts: 1,283	That's a really nice shape! Car looks only so-so though.

01-10-2013, 02:11 PM	#51
Ken_ Tally Ho! Drives: 13 2SS/RS 6M, 05 Mitsubishi Evo 8 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: KU Posts: 239	Those Holden Utes are no joke. Z06 engine in a car that weighs less than the 5th Gen, and this was back in 2008. Sure, the import crowd will probably be the first to grab them up if they do come to the USA. We already have them, but not as Utes. They are Chevy Lumina CSV CR8 here in the Middle East and mid-sized sedans. We never had the US Lumina POS front-wheel drive. It all started with the Holden Monaro, which was brought over to the USA as the Pontiac G60 GTO for a few years, and then graduated to the front facade that you see with the Holden Ute. Can you see where the ZL1 front facade idea was taken from the CR8?

01-11-2013, 01:45 AM	#53
Ken_ Tally Ho! Drives: 13 2SS/RS 6M, 05 Mitsubishi Evo 8 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: KU Posts: 239	They run the Holden Commodore sedan, and the Ute chassis is technically a Commodore. The Australian Touring Car Series ended some time ago, and was replaced/merged with the Australian V8 Supercar Series. They run it in the Middle East in Abu Dhabi, Bahrain and I think Qatar and Saudi Arabia, as well. I admire the cars. I think if they were to bring the Ute to the USA and run it in the truck series, it would definitely be contested before it ever got on the track because of the definition of a truck. Could it be a crossover/hybrid? These are things well above my head, but I am fairly certain that if it were able to run in the series, it would mop the place up. By the way, Nissan is entering the Supercar series with a V8 RWD Altima for the 2013 series. I believe Mercedes may also be doing the same. I guess Toyota kicked started this whole thing with the Camry in NASCAR and other leagues are following suit. It's all fairly interesting.

01-11-2013, 02:12 AM	#54
Lawdog1911 ZL1 Dreamin Drives: 1967 Camaro, 2010 2SS (RIP) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Cut N Shoot Texas Posts: 532	I remember the O'Brein (sp) racing team in San Antonio. They ran and won with El Caminos. He said they had great balance.

01-11-2013, 07:49 AM	#56
Ken_ Tally Ho! Drives: 13 2SS/RS 6M, 05 Mitsubishi Evo 8 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: KU Posts: 239	That's a shame because the Commodore-based G8 was a beautiful sedan with plenty of power, and it lives on as the Commodore with the same style line/shape.