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Old 06-19-2012, 09:13 PM   #43
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Old 06-19-2012, 09:15 PM   #44
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A mi me el programa de "insanity". Cuando estaba en el ejercito lo hice todos Los Dias por un ano y mi tranformacion era increible. Buerna suerte.
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Old 06-19-2012, 09:16 PM   #45
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Haha you are doing this work out program too???? How have you found it?? I have it waiting for me but I havent had the balls yet to start LOL
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Old 06-19-2012, 10:34 PM   #46
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Not that I am pro P90-anything... but it's a good place to start if you don't know how to plan your own routine. What routine are you doing?
I'm a boxer and alternate a lot of power lifting, running, and interval training. I also started getting involved in cyclocross, so I'm working towards shifting to more lean body mass. I change my programs quite frequently depending on my goals.

Things like p90x and insanity are decent body-weight, multi-muscle group targeting exercises, however they don't give you what i call "useable" muscle. They can just give you that "cut" look.

A few fighters I train with ran some of these programs to manage weight and mix things up, and all of them lost about 15% to their max lifting capacity. It also didn't increase any cardiovascular conditioning.
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Old 06-19-2012, 10:44 PM   #47
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Oh I agree that P90x (and etc) won't bulk you up or anything. But for general health and conditioning (especially for someone who is currently not exercising), it's a good place to start. Better than getting into any other program where you don't know what you're doing, and run the risk of pushing to hard and hurting yourself right out the gate.

I would disagree with no benefit to cardiovascular conditioning though. There is an awful lot of non-stop activity for there to be no cardio benefit. Sure, it won't make you a stronger runner, but neither will working your tail off on a stationary bike. But it still does things for your cardiovascular system.

Like I said, I'm not a fan either... but a good structured routine is good for someone that needs a place to start.
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Old 06-19-2012, 10:54 PM   #48
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Oh I agree that P90x (and etc) won't bulk you up or anything. But for general health and conditioning (especially for someone who is currently not exercising), it's a good place to start. Better than getting into any other program where you don't know what you're doing, and run the risk of pushing to hard and hurting yourself right out the gate.

I would disagree with no benefit to cardiovascular conditioning though. There is an awful lot of non-stop activity for there to be no cardio benefit. Sure, it won't make you a stronger runner, but neither will working your tail off on a stationary bike. But it still does things for your cardiovascular system.

Like I said, I'm not a fan either... but a good structured routine is good for someone that needs a place to start.
No offense or anything, and not trying to be a jerk, but you contradict yourself a bunch in this post.

Of course it won't "bulk you up". Body weight exercises won't. And it is a misconception that power lifting and any kind of lifting bulks you up. There are several fighters I train with in the lower weight classes than me that can lift the same if not more than I can. Bulking is more of a result of diet supporting your exercise.

Working properly on a stationary bike certainly will increase you cardiovascular endurance. It takes 20 minutes of constant cardio exercise to get in the "cardio zone" and increase endurance. Biking on a set schedule is certainly one of the top 3 cardio exercises out there.

I guess you can call it a decent starting place. IMO, any program that ends after XX days without a clearly defined result (besides "better looks" or "lose weight" or some "body mass" buzz words) leaves me skeptical.
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Old 06-20-2012, 02:30 AM   #49
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You know what? Dumping on someone because they misspelled something has got to be the epitome of cheap shots. English might not be his first language and/or he might have a disability that isn't fully accommodated to the point at he can post with perfect spelling and grammar. Last I checked that isn't a requirement for posting on this forum.
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Old 06-20-2012, 08:32 AM   #50
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No offense or anything, and not trying to be a jerk, but you contradict yourself a bunch in this post.

Of course it won't "bulk you up". Body weight exercises won't. And it is a misconception that power lifting and any kind of lifting bulks you up. There are several fighters I train with in the lower weight classes than me that can lift the same if not more than I can. Bulking is more of a result of diet supporting your exercise.

Working properly on a stationary bike certainly will increase you cardiovascular endurance. It takes 20 minutes of constant cardio exercise to get in the "cardio zone" and increase endurance. Biking on a set schedule is certainly one of the top 3 cardio exercises out there.

I guess you can call it a decent starting place. IMO, any program that ends after XX days without a clearly defined result (besides "better looks" or "lose weight" or some "body mass" buzz words) leaves me skeptical.
No offense taken. But I'm confused as to where I contradicted myself. Just because I don't like the program doesn't mean I think it's a "bad" program. I HAVE tried it for a few weeks, it's just not my thing. I'm just saying from a point of view from a person who wants to start exercising, that's it's a good place to start. It pretty much does what it advertises. It says it can get you that "lean and cut" look, and it pretty much delivers (unless of course you've got an impossible amount of bodyfat to shed over that time). I actually used it's ab workout for a couple of months alongside my own lifting routine.

And a program that "ends" at 90 days isn't all that bad. From what I understand, when it ends, you pretty much restart it. And while YOUR program sounds like you mix things up fairly often, which is grea, it is recommended for many routines to change it up after 8-12 weeks, 12 weeks being about 90 days. But I bet you know as well as I do, that someone without experience can't effectively change their own workout that often and expect to get the results they want. That takes time and practice getting to know your body. Something a "couch potato" just won't know right away. That's the only reason I defend that program. It's got a schedule and structure for people just getting into fitness that is beneficial to them.
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Old 06-20-2012, 08:51 AM   #51
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sweet. good luck with your work outs! Nothing like being in shape!
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Old 06-20-2012, 09:10 AM   #52
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Lol @ fad workout programs.
+1 but it's better than nothing. OP, just make sure you don't sacrifice form.
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