I wish pontiac was still around - Page 4

orangeonwhite · 03-15-2012, 11:33 AM

Pontiac would still be around if GM hadn't made the Single Digit IQ decision of the last 50 years by trying to market some POS car from austrialia as a GTO to counter the reborn Ford Mustang. Would of easily outsold the camaro 5 had it been created like the 65 -67 GTO. Isnt that right Fbobfather or whatever you go by

Heaven_is_inferno_orange · 03-15-2012, 01:19 PM

The only Pontiac I ever liked was the Firebird Trans Am. My husband is a huge TA guy and he would love nothing more than to see the TA comeback but he absolutely hates the TA conversion kits on the camaro. He thinks they are ugly and I have to agree. I'd love to see the Trans Am comeback someday as its own original car not a Camaro with different body panels.

meissen · 03-15-2012, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Heaven_is_inferno_orange

The only Pontiac I ever liked was the Firebird Trans Am. My husband is a huge TA guy and he would love nothing more than to see the TA comeback but he absolutely hates the TA conversion kits on the camaro. He thinks they are ugly and I have to agree. I'd love to see the Trans Am comeback someday as its own original car not a Camaro with different body panels.

4th gen Firebirds/Trans Ams and Camaros were nothing more than the same car with different body panels and interior panels, in all fairness. The only difference with Lingenfelter making a Trans Am conversion off the Camaro is that it's not General Motors doing it.

TastyBake · 03-15-2012, 01:45 PM

I owned a '99 Grand Prix for 10 yrs so I do miss it Pontiac in general. Considered a G8 V8 and a GTO greatly before the CamaroV6.

Bob Lutz was on Autoline Detroit saying Pontiac was x'ed not for sales as it sold more than Buick. Profits from it were low. While I do miss pontiac, I can understand why it was axed. Too bad they couldn't make it a performance brand but it could return.

Its 1:15 hours long but @18:30 is where they talk design and @47:45 is where they talk on Pontiac and GMC being axed.
http://www.autolinedetroit.tv/journal/?cat=1513
http://www.autolinedetroit.tv/podcas...rs/AAH_085.mp3

Slightly off topic, this is what Bob said happened when he looked at the upcoming +04 Grand Prix design.
Wayne was the VP of design at GM.

Quote:

Bob: “Wayne, these designs are terrible.”

Wayne: "I know"

Bob: “This thing is coming out and the VP of design says ‘these are terrible’?”

Wayne: "Yea"

Bob: "How does this happen"

Wayne: “I have no authority over it. The vehicle line executives said its ok. We had to hit the cutoff day.”

Kinda sad. Glad GM has changed.

REDXIIIDave · 03-15-2012, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ject

Ah yeah, forgot about the GTO.. was pretty nice

Don't forget the Solstice. A second gen Solstice GXP probably would have been killer.

Blondie3 · 03-15-2012, 04:05 PM

I still own my 1998 Grand Prix and it has 73,000 miles on it

I spent alot of money on the repairs and new parts,

Depite that, Im not getting rid of it anytime soon

LOWDOWN · 03-15-2012, 04:10 PM

I really wish this was June/08, and I could get ALL my money out o' the Market...and then I wish it was March/09, so I could put it all back in at the bottom...and then I could afford to buy every Pontiac I ever wished for...

big hammer · 03-15-2012, 09:08 PM

my t\a's

ROBOSSRS · 03-16-2012, 11:16 PM

Yeah I miss my 94 Trans sport and my 98 Bonneville.

v6needluv2 · 03-16-2012, 11:22 PM

I was really never a huge fan of pontiac other than the trans am and g8

FenwickHockey65 · 03-16-2012, 11:29 PM

I liked a number of Pontiacs...Firebirds/Trans Ams, Grand Prix, Solstice, G8. Love the 2000-2005 Bonneville...would definitely own one.

AZCamaroFan · 03-17-2012, 09:50 AM

Pontiac had some great cars over the years, but now that they're gone i really am not missing them . It's made GM stronger, with just 3 brands to concentrate on. Those brands are all really distinct now too. Pontiac and Chevrolet were so close in price that they really just competed with each other, and the extra cost of tooling up for a 4th brand really didn't pay off.
It's too bad there won't be another Firebird, but if there was it would just take Camaro sale's and the mustang would hold the number 1 sales spot.

eolson · 03-17-2012, 10:13 AM

Can someone explain to me what the car at the top of the first page of the thread is ????

A kit car?? Thanks, Erik

ROBOSSRS · 03-17-2012, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by eolson

Can someone explain to me what the car at the top of the first page of the thread is ????

A kit car?? Thanks, Erik

Modern day Trans Am made from the new Camaro, my blue oval buddy.

03-15-2012, 11:33 AM	#43
orangeonwhite Drives: 2010 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: PC Socialist WA Posts: 246	Pontiac would still be around if GM hadn't made the Single Digit IQ decision of the last 50 years by trying to market some POS car from austrialia as a GTO to counter the reborn Ford Mustang. Would of easily outsold the camaro 5 had it been created like the 65 -67 GTO. Isnt that right Fbobfather or whatever you go by __________________ ------------------------------------------------

03-15-2012, 01:19 PM	#44
Heaven_is_inferno_orange Savage Setsuna Drives: 16' 2SS, 12 ZL1, RIP Sasuke Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Fort Knox KY Posts: 1,379 View My Garage	The only Pontiac I ever liked was the Firebird Trans Am. My husband is a huge TA guy and he would love nothing more than to see the TA comeback but he absolutely hates the TA conversion kits on the camaro. He thinks they are ugly and I have to agree. I'd love to see the Trans Am comeback someday as its own original car not a Camaro with different body panels. __________________ Sasuke's Build Thread http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5352161&posted=1#post5352161

03-15-2012, 09:08 PM	#50
big hammer Drives: 2002 ws6 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: manitoba Posts: 1,202	my t\a's __________________ Bolt on 2002 ls1 Trans am--- 11.5 @ 121 (1.72) 2000 da

03-16-2012, 11:29 PM	#53
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2023 Expedition Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,375 View My Garage	I liked a number of Pontiacs...Firebirds/Trans Ams, Grand Prix, Solstice, G8. Love the 2000-2005 Bonneville...would definitely own one. __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2023 Ford Expedition SSV (State-Issued)

03-17-2012, 09:50 AM	#54
AZCamaroFan Camaro6 2016-2018 Drives: sometimes Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 18,469	Pontiac had some great cars over the years, but now that they're gone i really am not missing them . It's made GM stronger, with just 3 brands to concentrate on. Those brands are all really distinct now too. Pontiac and Chevrolet were so close in price that they really just competed with each other, and the extra cost of tooling up for a 4th brand really didn't pay off. It's too bad there won't be another Firebird, but if there was it would just take Camaro sale's and the mustang would hold the number 1 sales spot. __________________

03-15-2012, 04:05 PM	#48
Blondie3 Blondie3 Drives: 2011 1Lt "Victory Red" Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 204 View My Garage	I still own my 1998 Grand Prix and it has 73,000 miles on it I spent alot of money on the repairs and new parts, Depite that, Im not getting rid of it anytime soon

03-15-2012, 04:10 PM	#49
LOWDOWN Downright Upright Drives: Daily Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Cruisin'... Posts: 4,145	I really wish this was June/08, and I could get ALL my money out o' the Market...and then I wish it was March/09, so I could put it all back in at the bottom...and then I could afford to buy every Pontiac I ever wished for...

03-16-2012, 11:16 PM	#51
ROBOSSRS Drives: 2011 Camaro SS/RS Inferno Orange Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: York, PA Posts: 6,592	Yeah I miss my 94 Trans sport and my 98 Bonneville.

03-16-2012, 11:22 PM	#52
v6needluv2 Drives: 2011 Victory Red LS Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Central Jersey Posts: 286	I was really never a huge fan of pontiac other than the trans am and g8

03-17-2012, 10:13 AM	#55
eolson eolson Drives: 2006 premium Package Mustang GT cou Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Northville, MI Posts: 249	Can someone explain to me what the car at the top of the first page of the thread is ???? A kit car?? Thanks, Erik __________________ 2006 Prem Pkg Mustang GT coupe. Saleen SC,10psi, 454rwhp,442rwtq, Complete Steeda/H&R, suspension change out, with weight loss, Techco Watts link, Stoptech big brakes, Race clutch, Alum. flywheel, Alum 1 pc driveshaft, 9x18,10x18 chrome bullit wheels, 285/40/18,255/45/18 nitto 555 tires. 3545 lbs currently. New car scent air freshener.

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