PWA "The Lounge" PART 2

[ibeck]

Originally Posted by TOMS1SS

Haven't seen the high class folks driving them as of late. Just my two cents but it looks like the Escalade won't be long for this world at least in its current form with CAFE.

Very true. Look at Hummer, it's no more. Either the Escalade dies or gets downsized.

Originally Posted by TOMS1SS

Cars aren't girls beck, didn't you see Nick's post the other day?

Oh yeah I did, Nick is also very high up on the Boss ladder. These cars do attract some nice ladies though...

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by TOMS1SS

Its scary to think its really one step away from Lincoln.

Lincoln's almost beyond saving. The entire brand is structured around the MKZ (rebadged Fusion) and MKX (rebadged Edge). MKS has been a sales failure for many months now, MKT was never a success...

If Ford's serious about continuing Lincoln, they need to establish more cohesive brand structure and give them more product.

[BowtieBelle]

Originally Posted by ibeck

Bahahaha no, no I'm not a sheikh that's not how it is in Turkey. What my parents have, they have hence why I haven't posted any pictures of their cars or our house. I know, it's all in good fun

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by TOMS1SS

Haven't seen the high class folks driving them as of late. Just my two cents but it looks like the Escalade won't be long for this world at least in its current form with CAFE.

K2XL is still planned for production in 2014.

[ibeck]

Originally Posted by badgebunny

Super ass.

Dat ass.

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Lincoln's almost beyond saving. The entire brand is structured around the MKZ (rebadged Fusion) and MKX (rebadged Edge). MKS has been a sales failure for many months now, MKT was never a success...

If Ford's serious about continuing Lincoln, they need to establish more cohesive brand structure and give them more product.

It seemed like Lincoln was doing alright after the LS fiasco when those new models came out a couple years back, but like you said they definitely need to come up with some new stuff or bye bye.

[BowtieBelle]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

K2XL is still planned for production in 2014.

Just sounds like another huge gas guzzler to me (the name-- K2 as in the mountain? XL?)

[ibeck]

Originally Posted by Ark5thGenGirl

[TOMS1SS]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Lincoln's almost beyond saving. The entire brand is structured around the MKZ (rebadged Fusion) and MKX (rebadged Edge). MKS has been a sales failure for many months now, MKT was never a success...

If Ford's serious about continuing Lincoln, they need to establish more cohesive brand structure and give them more product.

The line is pretty thin, its disappointing to see car after car delayed or canceled with Cadillac. If GM is series they need to start a full line of upper tier luxury cars like BMW, Audi and Mercedes. GM needs to leave the soft luxury to Buick, if they can pull that off both brands have a chance of surviving.

[Fightinfire921]

Originally Posted by ibeck

And the Escalade. So many old people who have a mid-life crisis run to the closest dealership and sign the papers.

Hey! easy now, my mid-life crisis was a 69 Z.

[TOMS1SS]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

K2XL is still planned for production in 2014.

How have sales been trending on the Escalade as of late? Haven't seen the numbers in a long time and I'm kinda curious now.

[WadeWilson]

[ibeck]

Originally Posted by TOMS1SS

The line is pretty thin, its disappointing to see car after car delayed or canceled with Cadillac. If GM is series they need to start a full line of upper tier luxury cars like BMW, Audi and Mercedes. GM needs to leave the soft luxury to Buick, if they can pull that off both brands have a chance of surviving.

So true, if they wanna go against the big boys Cadillac needs to up their game. The STS was a joke against an E class, A6 or 5 series. From what I've heard, Cadillac and Buick do very well in China but other than that in Europe no one considers Cadillac's a competitor for the Germans. There are Escalade's here and there, but those are super luxury due to their price tag overseas.

Originally Posted by WYKOFF69Z

Hey! easy now, my mid-life crisis was a 69 Z.

Oh dang, looks like I hit a nerve It's cool, my dads always having a mid-life crisis.

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by Ark5thGenGirl

Just sounds like another huge gas guzzler to me (the name-- K2 as in the mountain? XL?)

Next generation full size truck platform = K2XX.

K2 denotes full size truck, last two letters denotes model line/variant.

For example, K2UC = Tahoe, K2UG = Yukon.

Originally Posted by TOMS1SS

The line is pretty thin, its disappointing to see car after car delayed or canceled with Cadillac. If GM is series they need to start a full line of upper tier luxury cars like BMW, Audi and Mercedes. GM needs to leave the soft luxury to Buick, if they can pull that off both brands have a chance of surviving.

It will take some time, but after next year, they'll have a fairly well-rounded lineup. ATS, CTS, XTS, SRX, Escalade.

And the Omega flagship is on the way.

Originally Posted by TOMS1SS

How have sales been trending on the Escalade as of late? Haven't seen the numbers in a long time and I'm kinda curious now.

Sold about 10.5k units this year. Excluding EXT/ESV.

[TOMS1SS]

Originally Posted by ibeck

So true, if they wanna go against the big boys Cadillac needs to up their game. The STS was a joke against an E class, A6 or 5 series. From what I've heard, Cadillac and Buick do very well in China but other than that in Europe no one considers Cadillac's a competitor for the Germans. There are Escalade's here and there, but those are super luxury due to their price tag overseas.


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At least the STS and the XLR were an attempt that was semi-competitive when it first came on the market. I'm talking more along the lines of the DTS and SRX.