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Old 08-15-2009, 11:33 PM   #45417
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Bah. I know it's coming in 2012 for the 2013 model year.
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They should leave it alone, but change something on it...give it new colors and packages.

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Old 08-15-2009, 11:38 PM   #45418
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What is?
Oh, you know.
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Old 08-15-2009, 11:41 PM   #45419
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Old 08-15-2009, 11:42 PM   #45420
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So I have to wait until 2012 to get one, Fenwick??! Holy crap. Well, that at least gives me a few years to save up...
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Old 08-15-2009, 11:43 PM   #45421
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I think you've stunned them all, WildClay, and they don't quite know how to respond. Of course it was never lost, but why do you favor Feinmans? :-)
Sorry, I know this is not the right forum for this kind of stuff, it was not my intent to stun anyone, I will get back in to the spirit of this thread after this post, but this has been a hobby of mine or field of study for 20 years, to me some of it is like acid without the drugs, great mind trips and no brain damage

I favor Feinman because it restored something that for 20 years Hawkings had taken, as basic rule of the universe as we know it that information in any form can't be created or destroyed/lost, only changed, we are in a closed system.

Nothing in the standard model ends up right if that rule is found to be breakable or wrong. It would also mean that we could never find out certain things, key things to answer how things really work if the information was really lost, not to mention why the laws of physics remain fixed if the ground rules change as the result of losses to the system, as they would have to.

So perhaps it is just for pure comfort or sanity, but it makes things make more sense when the universe is playing by the rules we think we know are absolute.

I can live with the departures that we see at very very small scales, I think eventually we will figure out why these things work that way and fit them into a TOE (Theory of Everything) someday, that will never be possible in a universe that loses information.
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So I have to wait until 2012 to get one, Fenwick??! Holy crap. Well, that at least gives me a few years to save up...
That's what I hear...of course, Number 3 won't tell me anything...
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Old 08-15-2009, 11:44 PM   #45423
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So I have to wait until 2012 to get one, Fenwick??! Holy crap. Well, that at least gives me a few years to save up...
Atleast you can drive.
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Old 08-15-2009, 11:44 PM   #45424
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Old 08-15-2009, 11:49 PM   #45425
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I'm an astronomy/physics buff, Fenwick. I just wanna see if WildClay will tell us why he favors one hypothesis over another - or if he was just showing off :-) You'll find out in college soon enough that there are talkers and then there are folks who really know what they are talking about...
See answer above, I could go in to a lot more detail but I did not know this was a test, however we might ajourn to a more suitable forum for an indepth discussion. When it gets down to it can really say anyone knows what they are talking about, or just some are more versed than others in the current thinking on the matter. Not too long ago string theory was going to answer everything, know it is starting to look more like a religion than a science
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Old 08-15-2009, 11:51 PM   #45426
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'Nite, Fenwick.

WildClay - thanks for the explanation. Absolute rules are comforting - until we find out they're not so absolute after all when some new theory comes along to disillusion us...

Thanks for posting. It's not often I run into someone here who thinks on a different level not necessarily about hp and torque etc. Quittin' time for this brain :-)
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'Nite, Fenwick.

WildClay - thanks for the explanation. Absolute rules are comforting - until we find out they're not so absolute after all when some new theory comes along to disillusion us...

Thanks for posting. It's not often I run into someone here who thinks on a different level not necessarily about hp and torque etc. Quittin' time for this brain :-)
Good night and agreed, I am alway open to the possibility that any given absolute is not so absolute after all, but for right now the closed system fits everything and that did not fit in a closed system model, which would mean we had it all wrong, and that may turn out to be the case but as of now and many years of work, the model was validated, at least until the next thing comes along as you say.

I have a very eclectic range of interests, and have never lost my passion for muscle cars, but it is an area I would never claim any level of expertize in.
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Good night and agreed, I am alway open to the possibility that any given absolute is not so absolute after all, but for right now the closed system fits everything and that did not fit in a closed system model, which would mean we had it all wrong, and that may turn out to be the case but as of now and many years of work, the model was validated, at least until the next thing comes along as you say.

I have a very eclectic range of interests, and have never lost my passion for muscle cars, but it is an area I would never claim any level of expertize in.
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