YOU guys are going to love this story... cant even buy a GTR HAH - Page 3

rmyers · 10-17-2008, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rays B4U

Well I'd never seen a GTR until you guys started talking about it so I looked it up and I'm sorry but IMO that is one ugly a** car!

This is one case where the car really does look better in person. Then again, the GT-R was never known for its looks. Its a legendary machine for one reason...performance.

Cole317 · 10-18-2008, 07:42 PM

There are 2 on the showroom floor here in the OC, but guess what, it had an $18,000 MARK UP!!!! and to be honest, i can't see why so many people hate them. They really are nice cars, i mean 0-60 in 3.2sec, thats pretty fast. And they look pretty cool, but from what i've heard it's nissan causing all the problems with it, making up excuses such as "driving it too hard" so they can save a buck and not live up to their warranty. I would rather have a V8 in which will last me a few years rather than a fast japanese 6cyl that will last me a month.

*Milk 1027* · 10-18-2008, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cole317

There are 2 on the showroom floor here in the OC, but guess what, it had an $18,000 MARK UP!!!! and to be honest, i can't see why so many people hate them. They really are nice cars, i mean 0-60 in 3.2sec, thats pretty fast. And they look pretty cool, but from what i've heard it's nissan causing all the problems with it, making up excuses such as "driving it too hard" so they can save a buck and not live up to their warranty. I would rather have a V8 in which will last me a few years rather than a fast japanese 6cyl that will last me a month.

No one likes them because the whole car is just false advertisement. Sure it can do 0-60 in 3.2 but if you decide to try and do that you'll void your warranty. I got to admit I would love to drive one but if someone ever tried to race me in one I would do it just to laugh while he voids his warranty against me.

rmyers · 10-20-2008, 10:59 AM

I think the GTR haters should show proof of some things. 1. Show us where it says the warranty will be voided for using Launch Control. 2. Defend your position that the car is false advertisement. And as far as I know, the only rumored problems were transmission related. Again I would stress the word RUMOR. There have been no indication that these motors are anything but bullet proof. The Japanese have been building 6-cylinders capable of 1200 HP for many years now.

The great thing about the internet is it gives everyone a voice. We need to always consider the source. Just because someone writes something (myself included) doesn't make it so.

swifttal · 10-20-2008, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by rmyers

I think the GTR haters should show proof of some things. 1. Show us where it says the warranty will be voided for using Launch Control. 2. Defend your position that the car is false advertisement. And as far as I know, the only rumored problems were transmission related. Again I would stress the word RUMOR. There have been no indication that these motors are anything but bullet proof. The Japanese have been building 6-cylinders capable of 1200 HP for many years now.

The great thing about the internet is it gives everyone a voice. We need to always consider the source. Just because someone writes something (myself included) doesn't make it so.

It's all over the gtr forums

lalometalik · 10-20-2008, 02:07 PM

^^ 'nuff said

headpunter · 10-20-2008, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rmyers

I think the GTR haters should show proof of some things. 1. Show us where it says the warranty will be voided for using Launch Control. 2. Defend your position that the car is false advertisement. And as far as I know, the only rumored problems were transmission related. Again I would stress the word RUMOR. There have been no indication that these motors are anything but bullet proof. The Japanese have been building 6-cylinders capable of 1200 HP for many years now.

The great thing about the internet is it gives everyone a voice. We need to always consider the source. Just because someone writes something (myself included) doesn't make it so.

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Originally Posted by swifttal

It's all over the gtr forums

it is on alot of nissan and gtr forums.....

it seems the people complaining about thier gtr's would be proof of thier non bulletproofness.....

rmyers · 10-20-2008, 02:42 PM

I have found credible evidence where Nissan does indeed state how the Warranty would be voided. However they are very clear in saying that turning VDC off does NOT void warrantly and using Launch Control does NOT void warranty, however they do seem to indicate that if something breaks while using Launch Control, it would not be covered. Personally I believe they will be sued over this, as it is against the law for a MFG to offer a capability that could ultimately void the warranty. And the conditions for which a failure would not be covered are still vague. Now have said that, just because someone on the forum says there tranny failed, doesn't make it so. It would be very simple for anyone to post this without showing proof. What I am saying is that we have a bunch of very immature people who want to do nothing more than jump on the band wagon of GT-R haters.

So to all the haters, I still say show me proof, show me a car except for Z06 offering similar performance for the price, or just please be quiet. And above all, remember that just because something is on the internet doesn't make it true. Ask for proof or drink the kool-aid....you get to choose.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 10-20-2008, 03:01 PM

gtr lovers and haters, huh?...

Lets say I'm in neither camp...I still haven't seen any prove that Nissan lapped the Nurburgring in a legitimately factory-spec car. Physics argues otherwise...and I still can't figure out why "godzilla" is so much better than its tried-and-tested competitors when nissan is voiding warrantees because they know the car is unreliable when driven the way it's supposed to be driven.

Yet, on the other hand, I can't find any proof against its legit-spec track-time, besides Porche's claim of "No f'ing way".

...

BowtieGuy · 10-20-2008, 03:11 PM

Hater and Kool-aid comments. The most lame comebacks on the web. Soon, somebody will swoop in and call you an OMGGTR-fanboiiiiii.

The fact is, nobody has any concrete evidence to support either claim. That launch control voids warranty, or that a factory spec GTR can post times that defy physics no matter what computer wizardry you have. Though I must say, when Porsche, with it's heritage, pedigree, and driver experience can't replicate that time, it get's iffy.

Chocolate Apocalypse · 10-20-2008, 05:28 PM

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Is7UQsaxLVU

So first a button to void the warranty and now a self-destruct button...those Japanese think of everything.

rmyers · 10-20-2008, 05:37 PM

I bet his tranny blew so he lit it on fire. Since the warranty was voided, he will get his insurance to pay for it.

Say what yall want, the GT-R is one bad a$$ car.

Signed
FanBoy

swifttal · 10-20-2008, 05:48 PM

I personally have loved GTRs for years... having said that for all those who require proof, I've posted a link below that I've used for years, it's pretty awesome really, and find myself using it almost daily

http://www.google.com

Chocolate Apocalypse · 10-20-2008, 05:55 PM

So Google will show us how much you love GTRs?

10-20-2008, 10:59 AM	#32
rmyers Drives: Both American Made Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 781	I think the GTR haters should show proof of some things. 1. Show us where it says the warranty will be voided for using Launch Control. 2. Defend your position that the car is false advertisement. And as far as I know, the only rumored problems were transmission related. Again I would stress the word RUMOR. There have been no indication that these motors are anything but bullet proof. The Japanese have been building 6-cylinders capable of 1200 HP for many years now. The great thing about the internet is it gives everyone a voice. We need to always consider the source. Just because someone writes something (myself included) doesn't make it so. Last edited by rmyers; 10-20-2008 at 11:09 AM.

10-20-2008, 02:07 PM	#34
lalometalik killer bAnana Drives: 1985 z28 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Carson, CA Posts: 694	^^ 'nuff said __________________ "Shut your noise tube, Taco Human!"

10-20-2008, 03:01 PM	#37
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,873 View My Garage	gtr lovers and haters, huh?... Lets say I'm in neither camp...I still haven't seen any prove that Nissan lapped the Nurburgring in a legitimately factory-spec car. Physics argues otherwise...and I still can't figure out why "godzilla" is so much better than its tried-and-tested competitors when nissan is voiding warrantees because they know the car is unreliable when driven the way it's supposed to be driven. Yet, on the other hand, I can't find any proof against its legit-spec track-time, besides Porche's claim of "No f'ing way". ... __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

10-20-2008, 05:28 PM	#39
Chocolate Apocalypse Full Fledged Member Drives: '18 1SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 346 View My Garage	http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Is7UQsaxLVU So first a button to void the warranty and now a self-destruct button...those Japanese think of everything. __________________ '18 1SS 1LE - DD '72 Cutlass - LSA topped 370" LS2

10-20-2008, 05:55 PM	#42
Chocolate Apocalypse Full Fledged Member Drives: '18 1SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 346 View My Garage	So Google will show us how much you love GTRs? __________________ '18 1SS 1LE - DD '72 Cutlass - LSA topped 370" LS2

10-18-2008, 07:42 PM	#30
Cole317 Drives: 71 Hemi Cuda Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Laguna Niguel Posts: 20	There are 2 on the showroom floor here in the OC, but guess what, it had an $18,000 MARK UP!!!! and to be honest, i can't see why so many people hate them. They really are nice cars, i mean 0-60 in 3.2sec, thats pretty fast. And they look pretty cool, but from what i've heard it's nissan causing all the problems with it, making up excuses such as "driving it too hard" so they can save a buck and not live up to their warranty. I would rather have a V8 in which will last me a few years rather than a fast japanese 6cyl that will last me a month.

10-20-2008, 02:42 PM	#36
rmyers Drives: Both American Made Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 781	I have found credible evidence where Nissan does indeed state how the Warranty would be voided. However they are very clear in saying that turning VDC off does NOT void warrantly and using Launch Control does NOT void warranty, however they do seem to indicate that if something breaks while using Launch Control, it would not be covered. Personally I believe they will be sued over this, as it is against the law for a MFG to offer a capability that could ultimately void the warranty. And the conditions for which a failure would not be covered are still vague. Now have said that, just because someone on the forum says there tranny failed, doesn't make it so. It would be very simple for anyone to post this without showing proof. What I am saying is that we have a bunch of very immature people who want to do nothing more than jump on the band wagon of GT-R haters. So to all the haters, I still say show me proof, show me a car except for Z06 offering similar performance for the price, or just please be quiet. And above all, remember that just because something is on the internet doesn't make it true. Ask for proof or drink the kool-aid....you get to choose.

10-20-2008, 03:11 PM	#38
BowtieGuy Enlightened Drives: Nothing Currently Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,285	Hater and Kool-aid comments. The most lame comebacks on the web. Soon, somebody will swoop in and call you an OMGGTR-fanboiiiiii. The fact is, nobody has any concrete evidence to support either claim. That launch control voids warranty, or that a factory spec GTR can post times that defy physics no matter what computer wizardry you have. Though I must say, when Porsche, with it's heritage, pedigree, and driver experience can't replicate that time, it get's iffy.

10-20-2008, 05:48 PM	#41
swifttal Drives: '91 Z-28 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Phoenix, Az Posts: 446	I personally have loved GTRs for years... having said that for all those who require proof, I've posted a link below that I've used for years, it's pretty awesome really, and find myself using it almost daily http://www.google.com

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