Is the new GT better than the BMW M3? - Page 3

AngryAmish · 04-16-2010, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by a_Username

BMW's luxury and reputation is usually what gives you that high price tag.

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Originally Posted by garagelogic

I'll concede the BMW uses nicer materials and has more bells and whistles than the average car (i.e. Mustang, Camaro, Malibu, Taurus, etc.)

A little more fuel to the fire. Are all those bells and whistles and materials...and something as subjective as "reputation" worth almost double the price?

I mean I realize that the price of a BMW is inflated because its foreign, but you still pay it regardless. Is it truly worth it? I guess I'm getting older, because lately I ask myself that question alot more than I used too.

Anyone that might know, I have a question: How much does a BMW go for in Germany? Convert to U.S. currency if you are feeling super helpful, but I can do that myself if you don't.

aldaron327 · 04-16-2010, 10:23 PM

Most of the mystique of the BMW is usually visited upon those who've never ridden in one/driven one or had to fight with the hideously complicated/buggy nav system. The build quality on them are ok, but they are so over-engineered that they're a pain in the ass to work on.

Oh, and don't forget this fact... for the price of a LOADED Camaro or Mustang, you might, MIGHT be able to get into a bottom of the barrel 3 series. Those don't handle anywhere close to the way an M3 handles and don't have near the high-end materials built into their interiors that an M3 does.

As far as comfort, that's highly subjective. Having lived in Germany for a few years, I've driven or ridden in every generation of BMW from the late 80s until the middle of the past decade. My fat ass has been in the interiors of an M5 (2006), M3(2004), 540i(2003ish model), 520i(1989 model), 330ci (2002), etc... and NONE of them worked very well for me (6'2" 250ish lbs). I've also known people who loved them. I owned one (520i bought used) and got rid of it within a few months.

In the end, it boils down to what you want to pay for: Sport Luxury or Sport Muscle. Both are cool cars in their own right, but be realistic.... an M3 BETTER have a nicer interior and better materials/build quality for the price premium you pay.

Just my .02.... YMMV.

comiskeybum · 04-16-2010, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sax1031

You sure?

I haven't seen the article.

But with hp/weight/acceleration/braking/later gs nearly the same I would say that a M3 vs '11 GT on a road course would be a drivers race.

Ford was aiming for the M3 in handling with the '11 GT. So I am sure it is right with the bimmer or just slightly behind.

yes im sure

Unfair · 04-17-2010, 07:30 AM

fancy comfort and all that stuff is cool for bmw's but really if you are into performance mostly why would you pay 60k for something that runs with 30k? IF you are that much into performance and value, of course if money isn't an issue buy the m3 it is a sweet car. I guess I am just about getting more for the money.

Scrappy Doo · 04-17-2010, 08:27 AM

The price is all relative I guess. If you make 500k a year, what's 60 for a M3?

I am not a Ford guy at all, but to pick between the 2 I would get the Mustang.

comiskeybum · 04-17-2010, 10:04 AM

mustang has same performance for less money

storm79 · 04-17-2010, 01:28 PM

hmmm i don't understand why people love bmw's so much, to me their interiors are awful and ugly...just my opinion but i think they are hideous and boring

Revo1 · 04-17-2010, 01:35 PM

Yes it is. Mustang may be our rival, but it's still American Muscle. I'd take a Mustang over anything Europe can throw at us...

AlSuwaidi · 04-18-2010, 01:26 AM

take both!

TaylorRyanSS · 04-18-2010, 01:28 AM

M3

04-16-2010, 10:23 PM	#30
aldaron327 Onward and Upward. Drives: '13 Equinox LTZ AWD,'09 Silverado Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Abilene, KS Posts: 398	Most of the mystique of the BMW is usually visited upon those who've never ridden in one/driven one or had to fight with the hideously complicated/buggy nav system. The build quality on them are ok, but they are so over-engineered that they're a pain in the ass to work on. Oh, and don't forget this fact... for the price of a LOADED Camaro or Mustang, you might, MIGHT be able to get into a bottom of the barrel 3 series. Those don't handle anywhere close to the way an M3 handles and don't have near the high-end materials built into their interiors that an M3 does. As far as comfort, that's highly subjective. Having lived in Germany for a few years, I've driven or ridden in every generation of BMW from the late 80s until the middle of the past decade. My fat ass has been in the interiors of an M5 (2006), M3(2004), 540i(2003ish model), 520i(1989 model), 330ci (2002), etc... and NONE of them worked very well for me (6'2" 250ish lbs). I've also known people who loved them. I owned one (520i bought used) and got rid of it within a few months. In the end, it boils down to what you want to pay for: Sport Luxury or Sport Muscle. Both are cool cars in their own right, but be realistic.... an M3 BETTER have a nicer interior and better materials/build quality for the price premium you pay. Just my .02.... YMMV. __________________ 2010 Summit White 2SS/RS LS3 MODS: CAI by CAI, Flowmaster American Thunder Cat-Back, DBA 5000 Slotted/Cross-drilled rotors (Front), Hawk HPS Pads, Russell Braided Brake Lines, DBA 4000 Slotted/Cross-drilled rotors (Rear), Barton Short-Throw Shifter, UM Comp Extractor Hood & Gen I Spoiler, custom paint

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04-17-2010, 01:35 PM	#36
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Unfair Banned Drives: 2001 Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 754	fancy comfort and all that stuff is cool for bmw's but really if you are into performance mostly why would you pay 60k for something that runs with 30k? IF you are that much into performance and value, of course if money isn't an issue buy the m3 it is a sweet car. I guess I am just about getting more for the money.

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