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Old 10-22-2009, 11:50 PM   #29
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May as well get a Sierra Denali for the $$, that is if you're just looking for that much power. If you're looking for something that goes off roading, it's not likely you're going to use a new vehicle... It's that way with about 100% of people that I know.
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Old 10-22-2009, 11:54 PM   #30
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Hummer does not make a car that can directly compete with the SVT Raptor. The hummer, with its special off-road package and everything, finished second to LAST in Motor trends off roading capability test... loosing to the Nissan Xterra, Jeep Wrangler, and Toyota FJ.

The SVT would have cleaned up in that class.
I misread what you were trying to say. we are both saying the same thing.
I thought you were saying the hummer was basically the best 4x4. And your right, the ford is geared to baja. But, the funny thing is it will get used more like a jeep would.
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Old 10-23-2009, 12:21 AM   #31
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May as well get a Sierra Denali for the $$, that is if you're just looking for that much power. If you're looking for something that goes off roading, it's not likely you're going to use a new vehicle... It's that way with about 100% of people that I know.
Well you'd be dumb to buy the car if you weren't going to take it off road.
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Old 10-23-2009, 04:16 PM   #32
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Hey check it out, GM might be building a Raptor competitor

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/23/s...aptor-fighter/
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Old 10-23-2009, 04:35 PM   #33
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They will be just like the hummer, most will never see any dirt under the tires and wiped clean everyday with the addition of 25" spinners with low-pro tires.
The difference here, to be blunt, is that the H2 and H3 were frankly built to be the mall queens most people bought them to be. Raptor, on the other hand, is the most capable production four wheel drive ever built by any domestic automaker. Irony? If actual capability is the primary criteria we employ here then Raptor would have fit into a lineup with the H1 far better than the H2 and H3 did.
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Old 10-23-2009, 11:32 PM   #34
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The difference here, to be blunt, is that the H2 and H3 were frankly built to be the mall queens most people bought them to be. Raptor, on the other hand, is the most capable production four wheel drive ever built by any domestic automaker. Irony? If actual capability is the primary criteria we employ here then Raptor would have fit into a lineup with the H1 far better than the H2 and H3 did.
Depends on how you define "Capable".

Care to list off the approach angle and departure angle, maximum grade, turning circle, etc. specs for the cRaptor? Just because it has a V8 and some big stupid tires doesn't make it more capable than any other vehicle? I'm sure there's some Jeep fans out there who would argue they have the most capable based on actual specs too.
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Old 10-23-2009, 11:44 PM   #35
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@ my dealer they had it marked up well into the 40's..almost 50k...
man F that price.

if i had that much to spend id get a GT500
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Old 10-23-2009, 11:50 PM   #36
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man F that price.

if i had that much to spend id get a GT500

The only thing I don't like about the truck is the FORD emblem across the grill.
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Old 10-23-2009, 11:51 PM   #37
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The only thing I don't like about the truck is the FORD emblem across the grill.
thats like me saying i dont like the equinox cuz its a GM.

who f'ing cares dude. i fully intend to buy an equinox.

put aside old loyalties and buy american and be proud.
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Old 10-23-2009, 11:54 PM   #38
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thats like me saying i dont like the equinox cuz its a GM.

who f'ing cares dude. i fully intend to buy an equinox.

put aside old loyalties and buy american and be proud.
Naw I didn't mean it like that. I just don't like the way the Ford emblem looks, they should of just stuck with the regular old Blue Oval.
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Old 10-23-2009, 11:58 PM   #39
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thats like me saying i dont like the equinox cuz its a GM.

who f'ing cares dude. i fully intend to buy an equinox.

put aside old loyalties and buy american and be proud.
I dont think he's saying that because it's a Ford but because it has huge as letter's going all the way across.
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Old 10-24-2009, 12:01 AM   #40
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Old 10-24-2009, 12:09 AM   #41
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Depends on how you define "Capable".

Care to list off the approach angle and departure angle, maximum grade, turning circle, etc. specs for the cRaptor? Just because it has a V8 and some big stupid tires doesn't make it more capable than any other vehicle? I'm sure there's some Jeep fans out there who would argue they have the most capable based on actual specs too.

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Old 10-24-2009, 12:13 AM   #42
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I was going to post that but could'nt find it.
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