Over 2 million more recalls

[stoopid]

Actually the toyota thing got A LOT of media attention. Everything does nowadays. It's all breaking news until it's 15 minutes old, then it's the next breaking news thing.

This too shall pass.

Fwiw the largest news empire in the US (world even?) owns Fox News, which has the largest viewership of any of the 24/7 news outlets. They're very business friendly and pro-merican. Not sure your suspicions about why this is making the news holds water. It is, however, an often used talking point on the Fox News broadcasts that the media is "liberal" or somehow bent to implode reality. Keep 'em fearful and angry. Who's manipulating who, exactly?

[TxBandit911]

Originally Posted by stoopid

Actually the toyota thing got A LOT of media attention. Everything does nowadays. It's all breaking news until it's 15 minutes old, then it's the next breaking news thing.

This too shall pass.

Fwiw the largest news empire in the world owns Fox News, which has the largest viewership of any of the 24/7 new outlets. They're very business friendly and pro-merican. Not sure your suspicions about why this is making the news holds water. It is, however, an often used talking point on the Fox News broadcasts that the media is "liberal" or somehow bent to implode reality.

The big difference I see is I never once heard anyone say "screw Toyota" they just kept buying them swearing they were the best thing since sliced bread. I hear about the evil GM empire daily...that, to me, is a direct reflection of the overall attitude of the media.

Oh, and I wasn't referring to fox news directly, mostly CNN, lol.

On a side note, your user name makes me lawl

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

I just don't understand at all how some people can not give two rats about a company like GM failing, and some even root for it.

Some of the people I have talked to who are GM people for life, have that mindset. Basically they saw GM almost fail once before, they wanted them to succeed, but now they see all these recalls and the way the media portrays them and they get this in their head "same old GM, thinking they are to big to fail, might as well let them this time"

[camaro-dreamer]

Originally Posted by shaffe

Some of the people I have talked to who are GM people for life, have that mindset. Basically they saw GM almost fail once before, they wanted them to succeed, but now they see all these recalls and the way the media portrays them and they get this in their head "same old GM, thinking they are to big to fail, might as well let them this time"

Some of those GM for life people even bought stock in GM and lost their investments. I only have issue with recalls that are not safety-related. With more recalls in the past year than vehicles sold, I cannot imagine this being good for the MSRP of future vehicles.

[citabria7]

Originally Posted by MLL67RSSS

Not as much energy as you do bashing them. I know, you must work for Ford and are paid to post derogatory posts and threads on a Camaro site. How much are they paying you?
Do you see how ridiculous that sounds? Boy you sure are gaining quite a ahhh,,, reputation here...

Couldn't care less about a reputation here. I tell the truth

[Muscle Car Memories]

Originally Posted by citabria7

GM just announced over 2 million more recalls today. Seems they might just as well buy back every car they made since 2002 and call it quits. They did NOTHING right, even on the 2015's. What secrets lurk in the Camaros that are hidden?

I saw the same thing on Fox news the past 2 days but from what Fox said, GM is recalling anything and everything to make sure they dont get hit again for something stupid. And I think GM is doing it to protect themselves.

Fox news also said that recalls are way up for ALL car manufacturers not just GM....

[MLL67RSSS]

Originally Posted by citabria7

Couldn't care less about a reputation here. I tell the truth

You do? Even about ME working for GM!!! . I DO NOT, AND HAVE NEVER WORKED FOR GM. I am an EET at a small engineering firm. Please keep your conspiracy theories that involve me to yourself.

And Toyota REFUSED to acknowledge OR issue a recall UNTIL THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WOULDN'T ALLOW THEM TO SELL THE CARS until they were fixed.

There are two sides to every story. You simply cannot make a thorough, informed, and intelligent determination with only one side of any story.

[stoopid]

Most of the important, safety related recalls were under the old/pre-bailout GM (<2008). Overall very few of the 2009+ models have anything significant to be addressed. I'm a Chevy owner as a result of the bailout, their cars have improved dramatically since then and are now actually competitive dollar for dollar in their respective segments. I'm actually on my third Chevy in as many years [long story]. Since 2012 they have really stepped things up. The Cruze, Sonic, Spark, 2013+ Malibu, 2014+ Impala, etc are all very good vehicles. The recalls are obviously the result of the bad decisions of the old management and this will be providing GM with a clean slate from herein.

[stoopid]

Originally Posted by TxBandit911

Oh, and I wasn't referring to fox news directly, mostly CNN, lol.

CNN is a small share of viewership and not a good gauge for how the entire media is portraying something. Like I said, since Fox News is a majority (see link below) of that viewership now, what they say is actually the predominant opinion of "news".** The student has become the teacher. They should speak nicer of themselves when they pit "the media" versus everyone else.

Some example numbers from just a few days ago...

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...0-2014/266283/

** News as measured by viewership numbers, not by quality of reporting or intelligence/gullibility of said viewers

[Tenring]

Originally Posted by TxBandit911

Exactly, where was the witch hunt for Toyota and their record safety recalls?

It doesn't take a really smart guy to see that who ever controls the media hates America and domestic companies. One world gov here we come, manipulate the opinion of the people and they will beg for it to happen

Also, this is about money, how many new law suits do you this will result in from people just wanting some free money?

We'll said....

[TheReaper]

Originally Posted by TxBandit911

Exactly, where was the witch hunt for Toyota and their record safety recalls?

It doesn't take a really smart guy to see that who ever controls the media hates America and domestic companies. One world gov here we come, manipulate the opinion of the people and they will beg for it to happen

Also, this is about money, how many new law suits do you this will result in from people just wanting some free money?