To date, the best car ever made?

[DarkneSS]

Originally Posted by WheelmanSS

Well, your thread is misleading then.

You ask for the best car - which is an absolute statement - then say its very casual.

And to me, for something to qualify as "best", it would have to be able to perform in the winter, which a RWD muscle car struggles in.

Anyone with intellect should realize the idea of a best car is always going to be subjective. I'm simply presenting my opinion.

All I'm really saying is that I don't think there has ever been a car in history that has offered what these cars do for the price, which to ME, makes it the best car ever, until it is dethroned.

Originally Posted by K32 Camaro

+1mil.

Too much hating on this thread for no reason. Just a fun, 'give your opinion' thread and people are freaking out.

I have always desired lambos and started with the diablo sv. Wish I could afford one, but for the price the closest to the sleek style is the 5th gen imo. Love the looks and the gen 5, for the price, is the best in the req's above.

Lambos are my peak dream car. They hold their value fairly well too, you need at least $100,000k or more to get a good one :/

[RJT Impala]

Theory of relativity: Everything is relative to where you are now. Having said that, my favorite car of all time was an '83 VW GTi, Koni struts and springs dropped 1.5 inches, strut braces; performance wise was quicker than Camaros of that era; handled like it was on rails. It was great fun to drive in city traffic and on the interstate. Would I trade my wife's LT2/RS for it--not in a heartbeat, even if I could! Is the Camaro the ultimate car for me? Who knows; next year when I'm sixty-five I may decide it's time to act my age and graduate to a Buick! (JK; don't like the land-yacht ride!)

[K32 Camaro]

Originally Posted by DarkneSS

Lambos are my peak dream car. They hold their value fairly well too, you need at least $100,000k or more to get a good one :/

Agreed. :(

I propose that we pool our money and buy a lambo. We can trade it off every other week.

[soloknight6]

Lambos suck. They just look cool. Have they ever won a race? do they even have a race team? Would I buy one if I had the money? Yes... To answer OP's original question: there are plenty of cars that are cheaper/better than the 5th gen. The fifth gen is a great car, but as far as handling/performance goes... Id probably have more fun in a scion FRS, or a similar import. But the fifth gen is a great car, and I love mine to death!

[TooCool5]

For me its the best car I have ever had for the money hands down.

[WheelmanSS]

Originally Posted by soloknight6

Lambos suck. They just look cool. Have they ever won a race? do they even have a race team? Would I buy one if I had the money? Yes... To answer OP's original question: there are plenty of cars that are cheaper/better than the 5th gen. The fifth gen is a great car, but as far as handling/performance goes... Id probably have more fun in a scion FRS, or a similar import. But the fifth gen is a great car, and I love mine to death!

Um ok....

http://youtu.be/JaS7n6qKQe4?hd=1

Lambo has never one a race huh?

[Brettzel]

Originally Posted by WheelmanSS

Um ok....

http://youtu.be/JaS7n6qKQe4?hd=1

Lambo has never one a race huh?

Nope, they have never one a race

[WheelmanSS]

Originally Posted by Brettzel

Nope, they have never one a race

oh no a typo. Thank God for the ultra cool grammar police.

[A-little-perspective]

Originally Posted by DarkneSS

Anyone with intellect should realize the idea of a best car is always going to be subjective. I'm simply presenting my opinion.

All I'm really saying is that I don't think there has ever been a car in history that has offered what these cars do for the price, which to ME, makes it the best car ever, until it is dethroned.

It all depends what you do in life.

The rancher says there has never been a vehicle in history that has offered what a truck offers for the price, which to him makes it the best vehicle ever. Meaning the Camaro has been dethroned.

[8cd03gro]

This is the best car ever made in my opinion



Asking to name the best car ever in the Camaro's price range is like asking to pick the hottest girl ever in the 200+ lb range.

[(Double D)]

I understand where you are trying to go with this.... but its so subjective... for example you are complete leaving out versatility.

I can do WAY more in my beat up, old, paid for pick up than I can in the Camaro, and have a ton of fun.

I mean I wouldnt want to take the Camaro back in some field and play in the mud, or take it hunting and toss a dear in the trunk. You see what I am saying.


But... IF I were to have a FAVORITE, car of all time, it would have to be the ICONIC 1969 Charger.

I mean who doesnt want to be a Duke boy? Who's with me?

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by DarkneSS

Now, I'm going to try and be real objective here, which will be difficult but uh, whatever!

As I was driving my LT the other day, I was pondering how amazing these cars are as a complete package. To the point where, when you factor in the long list of positive attributes about the 5th gen, one has a decent case that these cars may be some of the best ever made, if not THE best.

So I pose a question, name me a car that satisfies all these requirements:

It isn't possible without assigning some sort of weighting to each of those categories and then getting everybody to agree on all those relative values. They aren't pass-fail in nature.

At age 22, the background for your preferences is considerably different from mine. I'm under the impression that you absolutely expect an outward appearance to impress, high-tech features, and a priority on safety. For those last two, that's at least partly because that's the direction cars have been generally moving for your whole life, so you likely don't know any different.

My perspective is quite a bit different from yours, and I'd weight things differently. Much differently in the cases of "features" (I'd rather just drive) and "safety" (I've managed quite well, including several years' time in cars that had one or more serious safety issues). When I was 22, such things either didn't exist at all, or if they did in infantile form they didn't really register. Today, having "before" and "after" experience I've got a better idea of what's important to me as a driver than if I'd never seen the "before" side personally.


The best car for you at any point in your life may be the one that you go into buying with full confidence that you'll still be happy enough with it 5 years later to still enjoy and truly want to keep.


As to your list of criteria specifically and sticking to U.S. domestics, I would think that the current Mustangs and Challengers actually rank pretty close on most points.

If you value a truly unique driving experience above all else, try a Caterham 7 with the 190-ish HP option.


Norm

[PalmerGA]

Originally Posted by rez333

OP - pretty pointless rave if you ask me. Go to a Subaru forum, and you'll find your counter-part making exactly the same rave about the STI. Therefore all these raves are pointless because they are completely irrelevant to anyone other than someone who drives a Camaro; in other words: you're preaching to the choir.

Preaching to the choir, indeed... and I agree that, all things considered, my Gen5 kicks everything else's ass.

[strych9]

Originally Posted by DarkneSS

Mhm, driven many types of cars, seen a million, been in/seen a ton of good races.

There are better cars out there, too many to list, but when they were new did they offer what these cars do for the price? I'm leaning towards nope!

Keep the big picture in mind here, the total package and the timing.

Okay, you want a real answer? No. No, the 5th Gen Camaro is not the best. Not even close. You have an intelligent, well-versed post. After I saw that you're 22 years old, that generated the .

I have owned over 100 cars in my lifetime. Each of them had bits and pieces of the accolades you espoused of in your post. None of them had all.

My honest opinion? My 1989 Mustang LX was the best bang for the buck. $12k (fairly inexpensive for the time) got you 225hp (14 second car), good looks for the era, A/C, power windows/locks, a sunroof, and a set of Eagle GT tires. I believe Motor Trend touted it as best bang for the buck that year.

Anyway, my 2SS has impressive features for sure. But it fails in many areas, too.

Sorry, but until you've owned a number of cars, you have no grounded experience in what the world has to offer for different types of cars.