Why does ford not utilize 6gears as GM does?

[SilverTurtle]

Originally Posted by fdjizm

you know you set your self up for that one lol... we shall see said the blind man...

p.s: turtle is thinking of a way to dispute my other post as a write this lol

nope, I got nothing

[zebra]

Originally Posted by perfxn

that makes more sense, i wonder if it because the gt only makes 315HP?

only having 315 hp don't have anything to do with the number of gears. even the 99 miatas had 6-spds behind the 142hp 1.8L

Originally Posted by fdjizm

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 11

you sir, just failed the internet.

Originally Posted by JMAN311

you missed a few numbers there...let me help ya out... it's 1,2,3,4.7,5,6,11,12.9,426

Originally Posted by fdjizm

fixed it for you


let me count your way and see how it works out

1998,1999,2000,2001,2002,................. ummm.............

Originally Posted by fastball

...You could also say, this is 2009 and perception is everything when buying a car these days. If someone who has no legence to either GM or Ford and cross shops a Camraro SS and a Mustang GT, both with manuals, and sees one with a 5 speed and one with a 6 speed, which do you think will leave the impression of "it's better because it has more gears"? Whether it really is or not isn't even in the equation for that buyer..... the car with the higher number wins.

like 426 over 315?

Originally Posted by z06invb

Well my 03 mach 1 had the 5 speed and my 01 Z 06 has a 6 speed. Having driven both I will say I could care less which it had. In the quarter mile you are never up into 5th and 6th anyway and on the road track it is pretty much the same. Maybe at the salt flats the extra gear would help. On the street at least for me 5th gear in the Vette is just something I row through on the way to 6th. If the final drive ratios are the same 5 sp vs. 6 sp. it does not make any difference really.

usually 5 spds have a final gear around .7:1 -ish. 6 spds tend to have around .5:1 -ish. it also depends on the rear end you're using as well. 5th gear with a 3.27:1 rear is going to be more economical than 6th with a 4.56:1 (assuming the rest of the car [namely tire height] is the same)

[cyberbro]

Originally Posted by perfxn

Its seems i only hear good things about our camaro's 6gears better gas milelage... Would the mustang not profit from it as the camaro does? Even the gt500 and super mustangs "cobra. roush, shanoda,...shelby" only use 5gears?

Cost.

[Bocephus]

Originally Posted by SandiCandi

Yea - they're buying them from GM and rebadging them as ford products...(only kidding). :(

Maybe GM would actually make money if they did this, hehe.

[ArcAngel]

its definitely a cost cutting scenario same reason mustang doesnt have IRS

[Riderover40]

Originally Posted by Bocephus

For 2011 Ford is going to 6 speeds across the board. Along with the new engines.

and this is when the stang catches up to the Camaro?

[Bocephus]

Originally Posted by Riderover40

and this is when the stang catches up to the Camaro?

Well I'm not going to make that claim. But it should make it competitive.

[Blownhotrodder]

Originally Posted by perfxn

Its seems i only hear good things about our camaro's 6gears better gas milelage... Would the mustang not profit from it as the camaro does? Even the gt500 and super mustangs "cobra. roush, shanoda,...shelby" only use 5gears?

I wonder if some of you even do the research on things before you post.

[ArcAngel]

+1 Blownhotrodder

[SSmoked]

Originally Posted by SilverTurtle

auto or manual?

auto.

lol my friends new mazda3 is a 6speed manual lol. 150hp and its got a 6speed. lol no exuses for ford. honestly 6th gear is a hwy gear.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by 06TBSS

Your kinda close on that one.....the current GM 6speed auto was a joint collaboration with Ford and GM....they will share many internals....only the cases will be different! Great news for the hot rodder.

In the crystal ball of the future I see the 6 speed swap into older 4 speed cars as popular commonplace as the 700R4 swaps into 3 speeds cars during the 90's

6 speed swaps have been common for quite a few years already. I have seen MANY more 6 speed swaps than automatic overdrive transmissions in non-overdrive vehicles actually.

[fdjizm]

when is the last time any of you went past 4th gear on the 1/4 ?? lol
its all about gearing not the number of gears.. check out drag racing a bit 3 speeds and 4 speeds everywhere.

[MLL67RSSS]

EVERY single engine and transmission combination has to be federally certified and EPA tested which can cost in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. If they put a six speed behind the same V8 that's always had a five speed before, it has to be re-certified. Since the new engines they are coming out with will have to be certified themselves, then by adding a new transmission at that time they don't incur extra certification costs.

[oldtransam]

Originally Posted by TJ91

ive always wondered the same thing.
The Fusion i drive could really use another gear, cruising at 120 km, the car is at about 2700 rpm, another gear could really make it more efficient

Go look at a 2010 model (I think they'll be in dealers soon). I was looking at the web info on them, and I believe they are all 6-speed (manual and auto).