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Old 01-26-2011, 05:25 PM   #29
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The Volt is a plug-in hybrid. It's marketed as an electric car but, it's really a plug-in hybrid.


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Old 01-26-2011, 05:25 PM   #30
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She may.... the dealership owners had a chance to purchase one... but not the public.... yet!

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Old 01-26-2011, 05:27 PM   #31
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I love how the ZR1 is roped off, but the Volt is gaping open for all comers.
I understand why they rope them off. do you know how many idiots would have to climb in it and possibly damage the car?. If I were buying one I would accept none other than a flawless one. not one with scuff marks all over the thresholds from dumbasses getting in and out of it for no apparent reason other than to sit in it.
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Old 01-26-2011, 05:29 PM   #32
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Got this from the GM website.

Interested in ordering a Volt? Please follow the five-step process below.
  1. Contact a Chevrolet Participating Volt Dealer (enter your ZIP Code below)
  2. Ask for a Volt Specialist to place an order
  3. After you place an order, a Volt Customer Advisor will contact you with more information
  4. Once the order has been prioritized by the dealer and accepted for production by Chevrolet, you'll be contacted again and provided with an order number. You'll then be able to track your order and vehicle build progress through a new Chevrolet customer web site
  5. Once your order has been accepted for production, it will be time to start preparing for your Volt; consider looking into a 240V charging station (recommended for faster charging)
Only Chevrolet Participating Volt Dealers will receive Volt vehicles. We will launch Volt in seven markets, in limited quantities: California, Texas, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Michigan and Washington D.C. Retail sales will begin in late 2010 in California, the New York Metropolitan Area, Washington DC and Austin, TX. Michigan and the balance Texas, New York State, New Jersey and Connecticut, are scheduled to begin receiving Volts in March of 2011.
If you live in the United States and are interested in contacting a local Participating Volt Dealer to place an order for a Chevrolet Volt, please enter ZIP Code here:
We intend to distribute to all 50 states in the next 12 to 18 months after the start of initial sales. If the Volt is not yet being distributed in your area, please provide us with your contact information, so we may send you the latest news and updates. We expect demand to exceed supply, so each dealership has been told up front the number of 2011 Model Year Volts to expect to receive. Ask your dealer if your order falls within their estimated 2011 Volt allocation.
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Old 01-26-2011, 05:29 PM   #33
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I understand why they rope them off. do you know how many idiots would have to climb in it and possibly damage the car?. If I were buying one I would accept none other than a flawless one. not one with scuff marks all over the thresholds from dumbasses getting in and out of it for no apparent reason other than to sit in it.
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Old 01-26-2011, 05:36 PM   #34
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This isn't the first dealer to go buy a Volt in one of the first release markets...

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/01/03/v...an-show-it-of/

At least they have the foresight to get their hands on one for display long before you can buy it in the market area. Would have been nice if dealers had done this when the Camaro first came out. Most dealers that got their initial "display" Camaro had it sold before the car came off the truck.
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Old 01-26-2011, 05:38 PM   #35
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The estimated annual fuel cost of my wifes 2010 Malibu is 1560.00 dollars. Now the cost of a Volt is what 40k or so? I paid 17k for my wifes car. So with a difference of 23k +/-. If I wouldn't have to buy one drop of gas at all for the Volt , it would take me 14.7 years to make up the differnce in cost. I understand this is purely hypothetical and based on avereages but still , I dont see the appeal to this car. It is a great car I am sure. I just dont see me buying one.
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Old 01-26-2011, 05:51 PM   #36
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The estimated annual fuel cost of my wifes 2010 Malibu is 1560.00 dollars. Now the cost of a Volt is what 40k or so? I paid 17k for my wifes car. So with a difference of 23k +/-. If I wouldn't have to buy one drop of gas at all for the Volt , it would take me 14.7 years to make up the differnce in cost. I understand this is purely hypothetical and based on avereages but still , I dont see the appeal to this car. It is a great car I am sure. I just dont see me buying one.
Exactly the point I was trying to make. The battery is under warranty for 8yrs or 100,000 miles but what is the cost to replace it? Where do you dispose of it? You can buy a brand new chevy cruze for $17,000 that gets 36 mpg. The cost of owner ship for a Volt doesn't justify the cost of the car. I'm not hating on the Volt. I would love to have one if the price was under $20 grand. If they really plan to make an impact on reducing our reliance on petroleum they are going to have to get that price down where the average middle class person can justify buying it.
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Old 01-26-2011, 05:53 PM   #37
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Exactly the point I was trying to make. The battery is under warranty for 8yrs or 100,000 miles but what is the cost to replace it? Where do you dispose of it? You can buy a brand new chevy cruze for $17,000 that gets 36 mpg. The cost of owner ship for a Volt doesn't justify the cost of the car. I'm not hating on the Volt. I would love to have one if the price was under $20 grand. If they really plan to make an impact on reducing our reliance on petroleum they are going to have to get that price down where the average middle class person can justify buying it.
I agree 100%. It just isn't priced within the right market to me.
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Old 01-26-2011, 05:55 PM   #38
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I've seen at least 10 volts with normal non dealership license plates cruising around metro detroit already. (15 or so if you include the D and M (dealer and manufacturer) plates) but the majority are customer cars already.... MI seems to be in full swing delivering volts to early order customers.
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Old 01-26-2011, 09:04 PM   #39
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I don't see how you're going to sell very many Volts with a $40,000 price tag to people looking to save a few dollars on gas. This will work in the niche market for all the rich people who just want to say they are "going green" but will never make it to mainstream America, at least not at that price.
Two reasons. First, there is a $7,500 tax credit on the Volt so the purchase price would then be $32,500............or so for more options.

Second, and a more likely reason to buy, is the $350 per month lease payment GM is offering. Considering the equipment and the EV range, this is a verrrry good deal.

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U were told wrong because they don't go on sale till 3 quarter of this year...



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Old 01-26-2011, 09:12 PM   #40
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So is it a plug in? lol
The official designation is "Range-Extended Electric Vehicle".

So, yes.....and no.

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As with pretty much everything NEW, the early adopters pay for the design and those who wait for the price drop pay for the manufacturing. The man hours that go into designing, engineering, and validating these vehicles is not small by any means. Once enough have been sold, the price will go down a little.
Not only that, but battery technology is VERY expensive. The pack in each one of those Volts could buy a Cruze (Not an exaggeration). As the tech progresses, the packs will become less expensive...and heck of a lot like TVs or other consumer electronics.

Supposedly, one of the main goals for the next-gen Volt (which believe it or not is just around the corner) is to make it less expensive than the model it replaces.

Remember a few things before the the sticker shock sets in too deeply.

Development costs for the Volt were anywhere from three to five times as much as the standard car. They've spent over a BILLION dollars developing and perfecting it. As a result, the Volt has absolutely the MOST advanced drivetrain in the entire industry. And it's also loaded to the gills....I'm actually impressed they were able to do what they did and still only set the MSRP for $40,000.

EDIT: OH, and I almost forgot....if you lease (which I think it smart for this generation of EVs)...it costs no more than leasing the greatly inferior nissan leaf.
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Two reasons. First, there is a $7,500 tax credit on the Volt so the purchase price would then be $32,500............or so for more options.

Second, and a more likely reason to buy, is the $350 per month lease payment GM is offering. Considering the equipment and the EV range, this is a verrrry good deal.



Shipping to dealers now. It's already been in the news that the first owner traded in his Prius.
Is that to the "certain" markets? Or zipcodes because NC isn't one of those and the sales manager said they couldn't do anything with it for awhile. Just curious?


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Old 01-26-2011, 10:49 PM   #42
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So basically if there is black out, your screwed? lol
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