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Old 12-11-2008, 11:41 PM   #29
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WOW JUST WOW BIG 3 LOAN FAILS ....

THIS IS SAD AND REDICULOUS

Late this Pm via local news out of Detroit the UAW would not agree to requirements to disolve debt by 2/3rd's before one can get bail out money from the feds..
The senate canceled the bailout this is devestating to Michigan and the entire country!
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Old 12-11-2008, 11:46 PM   #30
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wow, Efing UAW... Chapter 11, best case for GM. I'm still buying a Camaro as soon as I am able to.
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Old 12-11-2008, 11:49 PM   #31
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wow, Efing UAW... Chapter 11, best case for GM. I'm still buying a Camaro as soon as I am able to.
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Old 12-11-2008, 11:52 PM   #32
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Cool Auto Bailout Talks Collapse

Looks like the auto indusrty is in big trouble.

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Old 12-11-2008, 11:53 PM   #33
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Who knows, maybe the banks will break form and actually start loaning money starting with the big three. I know, wishful thinking. Maybe they should have asked for a handout instead of a loan, everyone assumes it's a handout anyway.
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Old 12-12-2008, 12:04 AM   #34
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I'm still have hope, but I heard that GM has bankruptcy attorneys looking at alternative and as said by other CH11 will more than likely lead to CH7, because share holders will want to recoup some of their money while possible.
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Old 12-12-2008, 12:04 AM   #35
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wow, Efing UAW... Chapter 11, best case for GM. I'm still buying a Camaro as soon as I am able to.
Same. I'm not cancelling my order. Here's hoping there is still a factory open to build it. :(
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Old 12-12-2008, 12:04 AM   #36
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The white house was threatening to use part of the 700 billion dollars to help out the industry... hopefully they do.
Best we can hope for at this point, at least in the immediate future... SIGH :(
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Best we can hope for at this point, at least in the immediate future... SIGH :(
Wait until we see what political games are going to be played when Bush tries to do that.
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Old 12-12-2008, 12:11 AM   #38
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Initially I though they gave Paulson way to much control over that money. But if it means he can cut a check to the big three, Maybe it was worth it. In my opinion I'd rather see that money spent on the big three than banks...
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wow, Efing UAW... Chapter 11, best case for GM. I'm still buying a Camaro as soon as I am able to.


Do you think they will still build the camaro without the money

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Old 12-12-2008, 12:17 AM   #40
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Do you think they will still build the camaro without the money

I think they still will. I'm sure all of the development work was budgetd for this last year up until now. I'm sure that they have already made purchase agreements for materials to build the 2010 Camaro. We should know something soon.
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Old 12-12-2008, 12:18 AM   #41
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Do you think they will still build the camaro without the money

The UAW or GM without the UAW?
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Old 12-12-2008, 12:20 AM   #42
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:(I hope they can work through this. Not like it was a bailout because it was a LOAN, THAT WILL BE REAPAID for much much less $$ than was handed over to everyone else. I hope the Camaro production will continue or i'll have to get a GTO or maybe even a *gulp* mustang...
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