First negative experience with my Bumblebee.

[oldfriend]

This is one of the KIDS] that his parents want to be raised by the [VILLAGE] to which them selfs do not want to belong , take care of yourself .

[Plainfield]

Originally Posted by VictoryMuscleCars

What a bummer situation. Get some mace just to play it super safe and stay alert. Good luck with this.

No I don’t think risking my job, by bringing a weapon to school is worth it. I do have a mortgage that I still have to pay.

Originally Posted by Icandrivejustnotlegally

haha . The kid just trying to be cool in front of his friends don't think about to much

Wish that was true, but there were no other kids around when I was talking to him. I had another teacher watch my class while I dealt with him. If he just wanted to be cool in front of his friends, he could have just told them he threatened me without ever actually doing it. They wouldn't have known if he was telling the truth or not. Besides, I really don't think he has any friends in the class. Which is sad, and possibly part of the problem.

[mhood]

Since your course is an elective, I really don't understand why you must go forward with this kid in your class. Can't he be transferred to another course?

[Mr_Draco]

I agree. File a report with the school board (not just the principle) where they should kick him out and place him in an alternative school and you should file a police report. I don't know about the laws in your state but here in North Carolina, threatening a teacher or any other school official is a felony since the Columbine shooting.

[VictoryMuscleCars]

Originally Posted by Plainfield

No I don’t think risking my job, by bringing a weapon to school is worth it. I do have a mortgage that I still have to pay.

Guess I didn't realize mace/pepper spray was a "weapon" per se. I know lots of ladies that carry a mace key chain or in their purse. Nevertheless, best of luck with this situation.

[Plainfield]

Originally Posted by mhood

Since your course is an elective, I really don't understand why you must go forward with this kid in your class. Can't he be transferred to another course?

As with any government program, there is quite a bit of fine print and paperwork. The paperwork has now started with the referral, but it is a 17 step process to have a kid removed from your class permanently due to behavior. I will follow the steps and see what happens. Either his behavior will improve, or he will be gone after a few weeks. If I could just kick any kid out of class without the 17 step process the school runs the risk of having teachers just kick out kids they just don’t like, or to improve their personal grade statistics.

The process is long however, if you step back and look at it, it does have a purpose, and is useful because with each step there is a new intervention. Hopefully, the first one works, and he is successful, and Bumblebee stays safe.

Even when we had a kid create a hit list a few years back, the school could only legally suspend them for 10 days. Then they had to be allowed back in school, until the school board expelled them for 2 years. That kids was walking the halls for a few weeks before they were expelled. Makes me sick, but that is the law, not the schools rules. It’s crazy. Once again---normally I am removed from that part of the job, and for that I am truly grateful.

[JusticePete]

As budget cuts have taken their toll on the public school system I started investigating private alternatives. My children now attend Catholic grammar and high schools. We are not catholic. The reason we selected these schools as a family were the TEACHERS. As I understand it these teachers are working for about 70% of what they would earn in a public school. They make this sacrifice for two reasons.

1. They believe in a Christian education. That should be no surprise to anyone.
2. The amount of time and effort they had to spend during class time in the public schools on discipline was such as distraction they could not tolerate it. That was shocking to me.

That is a sad commentary on society. The reason the feel they have so few problems in the Catholic schools they teach in is parent commitment. They feel parents have more invested because of their religious beliefs and the school tuition. How could a parent need more commitment than the welfare of their own child?

I am sorry you have had to deal with this in your classroom and parking lot.

[Plainfield]

Originally Posted by VictoryMuscleCars

Guess I didn't realize mace/pepper spray was a "weapon" per se. I know lots of ladies that carry a mace key chain or in their purse. Nevertheless, best of luck with this situation.

I may not be able to bring it to school, but I would encourage all of my students to have it on them whenever they go 'out on the town.'

You are right, everyone needs to be prepared a bad situation if it should arise. But I live in Illinois, and getting any weapon is pretty much illegal or really hard to get, and having one on government property is a big no-no.

Now, if the criminals only followed the law, that would make sense to me.

[mhood]

Originally Posted by Plainfield

teachers just kick out kids they just don’t like, or to improve their personal grade statistics.

Sorry but that's not the case here. You were threatened. And you've said this kid has a 40 grade average. Move the punk into ISS for as long as it takes to do the paperwork to get him in another school in the District or at the very least another classroom. What kind of a Principal/Superintendent do have there anyway?

[2SSJIM]

I had a kid threaten my daughter with damage to her car in high school, this kid to from what I understood at the time was disruptive in class. As a parent that wouldn't let his kids do that crap, I talked to the teacher, school admin and ultimately the kids parents. I couldn't believe how powerless the schools are to punish kids that misbehave in class and after talking to the kids parents and seeing that they in't really want to deal with him, I did........ now I'm not gonna say what I did, but the kid never threatened my daughter again and I had a teacher thank me, and I didn't end up in jail either.... which supprised me. I guess his parents really didn't want to deal with him.

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

Originally Posted by Plainfield

That kids was walking the halls for a few weeks before they were expelled. Makes me sick, but that is the law, not the schools rules.

The law? There are some really screwed up politicians out there.

[robsls3]

Rightfully cant you just send him to the deans office every day or have the students counsler present to catch this act? Take it to the local school board see what they say.

[SSLarry]

Just get a witness the next time he threatens you. I am in no way suggesting you set him up by having someone overhear the conversation then bring up the fact that you have a witness. That would be just wrong.

[Plainfield]

Originally Posted by BackinBlackSS/RS

The law? There are some really screwed up politicians out there.

You did catch that I live in Illinois right? Of course, we have screwed up politicians over here. I look in the direction of Indiana, or any other Red State, and just dream of what life could be like. If only I could convince my other half to move....

Originally Posted by mhood

teachers just kick out kids they just don’t like, or to improve their personal grade statistics.

Sorry but that's not the case here. You were threatened. And you've said this kid has a 40 grade average. Move the punk into ISS for as long as it takes to do the paperwork to get him in another school in the District or at the very least another classroom. What kind of a Principal/Superintendent do have there anyway?

Let me clarify, I didn't say that teachers just kick out kids they just don’t like, or to improve their personal grade statistics. I said we have to go through a ridiculous amount of paperwork so the administration can show that the teachers are not abusing the system. If they didn't do that, then we would get accused of kicking kids out that we didn't like or to improve our personal grade statistics.

Now, remember as I originally posted, this particular child is attempting to be the class clown. He is very intelligent. If the world is a perfect place, when he gets called down to the Deans office tomorrow, they will be able to get through to him in a way that I could not. And then he can join the class and be successful. That is another reason there are so many steps to removing a student from the classroom. With each step there is a new intervention. Hopefully, the first one works, and he is successful, and Bumblebee stays safe.