Pre Packaged Bankruptcy

[Hylton]

Originally Posted by The_Blur

My concern is that I'll never get to place an order because not enough people will put money down for GM under any form of bankruptcy.

Why not? Everyone did it with Chrysler in the 80's and they did it with crappy "K" cars, lol!

[rmyers]

I would not cancel.

[The_Blur]

Originally Posted by Hylton

Why not? Everyone did it with Chrysler in the 80's and they did it with crappy "K" cars, lol!

Chrysler was smaller than GM is now. I don't think GM will be okay if it has to shed core brands. I would hate to see Pontiac and Chevrolet under different companies.

[R1Ecko]

If they shed any of their other brands it would most likely be Hummer that is the first to go. Pontiac and Saturn should be able to hang on. Has anyone driven the new G8? It's amazing!

[Speed74SS]

I would not cancel either...waiting for the dream that is "Camaro"

[Stevo]

Warranty is worth something and is worth everything if there is a drivetrain/electrical problem...without it the car is not worthless but is worth less...I'd want $2,000 off MSRP to buy a warranty from someone else.

[Hylton]

Originally Posted by Stevo

Warranty is worth something and is worth everything if there is a drivetrain/electrical problem...without it the car is not worthless but is worth less...I'd want $2,000 off MSRP to buy a warranty from someone else.

Warranties are basically insurance policies. 90% of the time, you never need it but every once in a while, a tornado comes through town....

[Stevo]

I've seen tornados with my 75 Pontiac Astre, 80 somethin' chevy cavalier, but not with my 86 firebird--great car!

[Scott@Bjorn3D]

I would not cancel. At least it would be a collectors items if they do not survive the chapter 11.

[Captain Awesome]

Here's what's going to happen:

First, Congress will work out some "deal" or another to "save" GM and the rest. I don't know what that will be, but it will happen.

Next, in the next year, new models like the Camaro will come out and because the media is now paying attention to the domestics, they will cover the new models.

Third, people will be SHOCKED and AWESTRUCK by the amazing domestic cars (like the Camaro) and will be flabbergasted at the great quality and innovations coming from Detroit.

Finally, congress and the current administration will credit the vast improvements in the domestic automakers to THEIR "deal" that they are about to make with Detroit. They will attribute all the improvements to themselves!

Mark my words!

[The_Blur]

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

Here's what's going to happen:

First, Congress will work out some "deal" or another to "save" GM and the rest. I don't know what that will be, but it will happen.

Next, in the next year, new models like the Camaro will come out and because the media is now paying attention to the domestics, they will cover the new models.

Third, people will be SHOCKED and AWESTRUCK by the amazing domestic cars (like the Camaro) and will be flabbergasted at the great quality and innovations coming from Detroit.

Finally, congress and the current administration will credit the vast improvements in the domestic automakers to THEIR "deal" that they are about to make with Detroit. They will attribute all the improvements to themselves!

Mark my words!

The current administration won't be in office to take credit, though. From a political standpoint, the Republicans can tote this as a win to take back a few seats from Democrats in the next couple of years, and we may see a shift to the right in areas that are most affected by they domestic auto industry.

Democrats, however, cannot afford to see enormous markets collapse at the beginning of a new administration. It would kill their push for change and distract voters from the issues that allowed a new administration to take office. They want to sound responsible with the money, even if they've approved too much money, with heavy Republican assistance, to irresponsible businesses already. Basically, Democrats will also tote the idea of saving Detroit's automakers as a major victory to establish a stranglehold on the industrial North.

From a public policy standpoint, it is hard to explain why the US government has not been supportive of saving the auto industry because the tax revenue they generate allows them to fund personal and government ambitions. The normal theories of public policy don't explain this very well. It is both counterproductive and dangerous to allow US automakers to fail.

From a realist perspective, all 3 automakers are essential to US prominence abroad. They influence the industry as a whole and make the US look good when they succeed. Unfortunately, there isn't any evidence that Bush or Obama are realists.

From a constructivist perspective, all 3 automakers are part of US history. Chrysler is the least desirable, but it is still memorable and important. At least Ford and GM should be allowed to survive.

From a liberal perspective, the free market should make all three automakers succeed or fail.

From a conservative perspective, the business interests of the Big 3 should be fulfilled.

This post is taken from multiple perspectives. I reserve the right to agree or disagree with any perspective in future posts as your resident devil's advocate.

[SSNIGHTMARE]

Originally Posted by Hylton

Warranties are basically insurance policies. 90% of the time, you never need it but every once in a while, a tornado comes through town....

haha seriously, out of the 5 new GM vehicles I have owned 4 have been for warranty work. The only one that has not only has 1,800 miles on it.

[Vash]

All 3 should be forced to shed the intermediate labels and get rid of shitty models.

They can rebuild to win with the great models like Camaro.

Ford should do trucks, crysler vans and gm coupes and sedans.

No one wants crossovers... they are station wagons. .get over it..

It's been tried I don't know how many times. And the bloated prices don't help.

[FirstLSK]

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

Here's what's going to happen:

First, Congress will work out some "deal" or another to "save" GM and the rest. I don't know what that will be, but it will happen.

Next, in the next year, new models like the Camaro will come out and because the media is now paying attention to the domestics, they will cover the new models.

Third, people will be SHOCKED and AWESTRUCK by the amazing domestic cars (like the Camaro) and will be flabbergasted at the great quality and innovations coming from Detroit.

Finally, congress and the current administration will credit the vast improvements in the domestic automakers to THEIR "deal" that they are about to make with Detroit. They will attribute all the improvements to themselves!

Mark my words!

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