The 2011+ Mustang Thread - Page 273

assasinator · 04-26-2010, 12:54 PM

the magazines are testing average stangs now. not special packages.

Smokey&Bandit · 04-26-2010, 12:55 PM

Thats some great reading.

2SSARMY · 04-26-2010, 01:03 PM

Anyone notice it's a 2010 camaro vs a 2011 Mustang.

Suspension tweak + gearing = SS > GT, no matter what

Sax1031 · 04-26-2010, 01:04 PM

Until we are told otherwise the 2011 SS looks to be identical with the 2010, except maybe the addition of HUD.

Stew · 04-26-2010, 01:18 PM

Considering the Camaro is also their long term car, I am sure it is broken in while the Mustang isn't. Seems like it takes cars these days about 3000-5000 miles to really open up. Heck, with huge diference I saw in my little 2.4 Jeep over 5000 miles I can't imagine the difference between these 2 off the showroom floor and with breakin miles. Also, what about 60ft times? I can't wait until actually drivers hit the track in these Mustangs because the Rags just leave a lot of pertinent info out of their reviews.

Stew · 04-26-2010, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2SSARMY

Anyone notice it's a 2010 camaro vs a 2011 Mustang.

Suspension tweak + gearing = SS > GT, no matter what

They've already announced changes and i don't think a HUD and Synergy green are going to increase performance.......... That said, who cares? They are both amazingly performing cars!

2SSARMY · 04-26-2010, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stew

They've already announced changes and i don't think a HUD and Synergy green are going to increase performance.......... That said, who cares? They are both amazingly performing cars!

HUD = +30hp
Green = +15hp

Stew · 04-26-2010, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2SSARMY

HUD = +30hp
Green = +15hp

LOLOL Needs a NOS Sticker, that is good for what, 150HP?

2SSARMY · 04-26-2010, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stew

LOLOL Needs a NOS Sticker, that is good for what, 150HP?

On rice burners it's 150hp so on a muscle car it's going to be at least 300... :P

attymf · 04-26-2010, 03:03 PM

I was worried the Stang would blow the doors off the Camaro with the new 5.0 set up. Obviously thats not the case though.

Pure and simple its one of two things now. 1) Driver or 2) Mods.

Isn't this the way it should be.

And BTW, I don't care if chevy beats ford or vice versa. They both better beat those damn ricers...

Black5thgen · 04-26-2010, 03:13 PM

I guess they pre-pro cars we're ringers. Ford has a long history of that. All season tires don't make that much of a difference in straight line performance, it's handling where the summer tires shine. This is right where I figured the mustang would be compared to the LS3. Torque curve > than weight disadvantage.

ULTRAZLS1 · 04-26-2010, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by assasinator

look. the mustang HAS LESS POWER. it just does. who wins hands down will depend on weight and gearing for the stang. they can be optioned PIG HEAVY. get one with standard gearing and a little extra weight, the stang will be way slower. add 245/45-18 or 235/50 18 a/s tires the car will have without brembos, the car is a loser.

we all knew standard tires are a joke on cars. we all knew standard equipped stangs are going to be slower than m6 SS's. (those who use reason)

the ford boys who thought they could option the hell out of the car and ignore physics are going to be upset. they will change tires and gears. those who thought the stang had more power, or was just plain faster from amagazine will be shocked. IMO. they have to be optioned to kill stock SS's easily.

The car had 3.73 gears. It didnt have the summer tires. Thats about the only down side.

When motor trend weighed a full option gt premium MINUS the glass roof it was 362x. A base no option car is 3603. The glass roof adds 20 lbs.

The weight is a wash depending on options. You are looking at plus or minus 40 lbs.

But yes the tires will make a difference.

Sax1031 · 04-26-2010, 03:23 PM

The tires make a big difference.

Just look at the handling numbers from the 11 GT they tested with the summer tires vs all seasons.

RedJewelrsss32 · 04-26-2010, 03:40 PM

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Smokey&Bandit Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: NEFL Posts: 68	Thats some great reading.

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Sax1031 Drives: 2000 Mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Elgin,SC Posts: 2,707	Until we are told otherwise the 2011 SS looks to be identical with the 2010, except maybe the addition of HUD.

04-26-2010, 01:18 PM	#3813
Stew Drives: 92 Luminadead/01 Dakota/97 F150 4x4 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Eastern, Ky Posts: 3,789	Considering the Camaro is also their long term car, I am sure it is broken in while the Mustang isn't. Seems like it takes cars these days about 3000-5000 miles to really open up. Heck, with huge diference I saw in my little 2.4 Jeep over 5000 miles I can't imagine the difference between these 2 off the showroom floor and with breakin miles. Also, what about 60ft times? I can't wait until actually drivers hit the track in these Mustangs because the Rags just leave a lot of pertinent info out of their reviews.

04-26-2010, 03:03 PM	#3818
attymf Drives: 2017 SS Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: LI, NY Posts: 755 View My Garage	I was worried the Stang would blow the doors off the Camaro with the new 5.0 set up. Obviously thats not the case though. Pure and simple its one of two things now. 1) Driver or 2) Mods. Isn't this the way it should be. And BTW, I don't care if chevy beats ford or vice versa. They both better beat those damn ricers...

04-26-2010, 03:13 PM	#3819
Black5thgen Account Suspended Drives: 2007 C6 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: chicago Posts: 2,251 View My Garage	I guess they pre-pro cars we're ringers. Ford has a long history of that. All season tires don't make that much of a difference in straight line performance, it's handling where the summer tires shine. This is right where I figured the mustang would be compared to the LS3. Torque curve > than weight disadvantage.

04-26-2010, 03:23 PM	#3821
Sax1031 Drives: 2000 Mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Elgin,SC Posts: 2,707	The tires make a big difference. Just look at the handling numbers from the 11 GT they tested with the summer tires vs all seasons.