2015 Challenger Hellcat 707 HP

[URBAN LEGEND]

707 on that ass. Let the haters start hating.

Good job Dodge!

[URBAN LEGEND]

Originally Posted by Venom SS

I wonder what the price of this will be?

Also what other upgrades have they done? I mean its awesome to have 700HP from the factory but for 70k+ (Im assuming)...Horsepower wont cut it...if anything it will embarrass itself if it cant get around a track faster than a ZL1

Right... Because the majority of ZL1 owners track their cars...
These cars will spend most of their lives on highways.

[07-SRT]

looks like the 275's will handle the launch ok.

[29er]

awsome!

[Hard Parker]

I love it its awesome cant wait to see what a bolt on one does....i jus wanna see more tech than jus HP...ZL1 had mag suspension ZR1 had carbon brake...

[truth411]

Originally Posted by AEP11

Its cool. I said that for two reasons.

Me myself was comparing only the 392 and Z28 1/4 mile times. Thats it. Just think those two are too close for the spec differences.

The other is the whole "its not built for the drag strip". Its still a 3800lbs camaro with a ls7 and sticky tires. Sure it shouldnt pull the wheels but it still should be capable of running damn good times with those specs. Not high 12's imo.

Ok, here's my view, I'm not into mag bench racing. But the main review of the z28 I remember was motortrend's which ran I think low 12's (looked it up 12.3 @ 117.2mph) that's about right for a 3850lb N.A. car with a manual transmission.

Also imo just focusing on 1/4 times compared to the 392 (nice motor btw) dismisses, all the tech, engineering, cost spent and FOCUS on what GM is aiming at with the Z28. For example you don't add $10k carbon ceramic brakes to be faster in the 1/4, you don't add 305 tires at all 4 corners for the 1/4mile, you don't add formula 1 type shocks for the 1/4mile... Etc... If all GM wanted to do was make a camaro with an LS7 then they would have made it an option for the camaro 1LE and called it a day, not to mention at least $25,000 cheaper. That was not their intention nor the consumer that actually buys a Z28. That's my 2¢...

Edit: BTW the camaro z28 tires are practically track tires that take a lap or 2 to warm up, it's not a drag tire, there very little grip until they warm up.

[ilirg]

Originally Posted by AEP11

Butt hurt.


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Sorry that I hurt your feelings :(

Most people here agree the hellcat is a cool car. What difference does it make if its faster then a Chevy or ford? Be glad we have these options available and stop acting like a bitch. Remember now Chevy and Ford know what their competition is, makes it that much easier to top it so get your panties out of a bunch and enjoy the show. ... fan boy

[AEP11]

Originally Posted by truth411

Ok, here's my view, I'm not into mag bench racing. But the main review of the z28 I remember was motortrend's which ran I think low 12's (looked it up 12.3 @ 117.2mph) that's about right for a 3850lb N.A. car with a manual transmission.

Also imo just focusing on 1/4 times compared to the 392 (nice motor btw) dismisses, all the tech, engineering, cost spent and FOCUS on what GM is aiming at with the Z28. For example you don't add $10k carbon ceramic brakes to be faster in the 1/4, you don't add 305 tires at all 4 corners for the 1/4mile, you don't add formula 1 type shocks for the 1/4mile... Etc... If all GM wanted to do was make a camaro with an LS7 then they would have made it an option for the camaro 1LE and called it a day, not to mention at least $25,000 cheaper. That was not their intention nor the consumer that actually buys a Z28. That's my 2¢...

Totally agree! The road course is where it shines!! Its very impressive! Im just saying i think it should be capable of an high 11 sec pass as it sits. Thats just my opinion though.

[newagemuscle]

No way... looks like it's time to up my boost.

[VADER SS L99]

Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

Right... Because the majority of ZL1 owners track their cars...
These cars will spend most of their lives on highways.

I'm sorry but the man has a point. I hate it when guys brag about road course times and have never actually raced on one nor ever will. 99% of ALL racing done by pony/muscle cars of every year, including this one, is done on the street, drag strip, or air strip. How many cars built for the track like the ZL1's, 1LE's and Bosses will actually do 1 lap around a road course. How many of those same cars will engage in a race with another in some sort of straight line competition? I bet the amount is a staggering lop sided difference.

[AEP11]

Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

I'm sorry but the man has a point. I hate it when guys brag about road course times and have never actually raced on one nor ever will. 99% of ALL racing done by pony/muscle cars of every year, including this one, is done on the street, drag strip, or air strip. How many cars built for the track like the ZL1's, 1LE's and Bosses will actually do 1 lap around a road course. How many of those same cars will engage in a race with another in some sort of straight line competition? I bet the amount is a staggering lop sided difference.

Amen.

[DarkneSS]

Very cool, we are likely in the golden age of gasoline powered automobiles. Tesla's cars, Porsche's Hybrid super car, Mclaren's Hybrid Super car, BMWs Hybrid sports car, these are all foreshadowing of what is to come. They won't be getting much more powerful than this folks.
With 700 HP though this thing will probably command 80+ Gs out the door. I still haven't seen official weight yet but it will probably weigh about 4400-4500 pounds. Will it be faster than the GT500/ With the 6MT, I say definitely not. It is all going to come down to how good this 8 speed auto is. I'm not sure 707 HP is going to be enough to take down the GT500 but we will see.

Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

I'm sorry but the man has a point. I hate it when guys brag about road course times and have never actually raced on one nor ever will. 99% of ALL racing done by pony/muscle cars of every year, including this one, is done on the street, drag strip, or air strip. How many cars built for the track like the ZL1's, 1LE's and Bosses will actually do 1 lap around a road course. How many of those same cars will engage in a race with another in some sort of straight line competition? I bet the amount is a staggering lop sided difference.

Absolutely! I think the ZL1 is an amazing car but I would never buy one. If I want a track car, I'll get a real track car. The ZL1 and Z28 are awesome but at the end of the day they are cruiser muscle cars in sheep's clothing. I mean come on the Z28 needs 305 "street tires" on all four corners. I'd rather get a true sports car for track days. I bought the Camaro because I know the only track I'll be going to anytime soon is the drag strip and I wanted something that looks nice, that is comfortable to cruise in, and can boogie from a dig/roll. The next fastest newer car I could have gotten was a 5.0. At the 50g price range I'm going used exotic, particularly an Aston.
"Track" cars are nice and all but you honestly need a ton of money on top of your purchase price to really have fun. And no matter how good a driver you are there is still a real chance you could put a ZL1 or Z28 right into a wall at any moment. Pros crash all the time, but they are FUNDED. Even the most bone headed driver can handle a quick roll race in a straight line (on a desserted Mexian Highway).

[Hard Parker]

Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

I'm sorry but the man has a point. I hate it when guys brag about road course times and have never actually raced on one nor ever will. 99% of ALL racing done by pony/muscle cars of every year, including this one, is done on the street, drag strip, or air strip. How many cars built for the track like the ZL1's, 1LE's and Bosses will actually do 1 lap around a road course. How many of those same cars will engage in a race with another in some sort of straight line competition? I bet the amount is a staggering lop sided difference.

I agree Im jus hoping for more than jus "crank up the HP for sales"

[AEP11]

Originally Posted by DarkneSS

Very cool, we are likely in the golden age of gasoline powered automobiles. Tesla's cars, Porsche's Hybrid super car, Mclaren's Hybrid Super car, BMWs Hybrid sports car, these are all foreshadowing of what is to come. They won't be getting much more powerful than this folks.
With 700 HP though this thing will probably command 80+ Gs out the door. I still haven't seen official weight yet but it will probably weigh about 4400-4500 pounds. Will it be faster than the GT500/ With the 6MT, I say definitely not. It is all going to come down to how good this 8 speed auto is. I'm not sure 707 HP is going to be enough to take down the GT500 but we will see.

Dodge has already boldly claimed it to be the FASTEST muscle car in history. Period. Dont take that lightly. They benchmarked this car against the ZL1 and GT500.

Its faster. The 6spd went 10.90's on a drag radial and the auto is faster.