2017 NFL Season Talk

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[PoorMansCamaro]

Originally Posted by hrpiii

Carolina wins, but super confused on all the NFC East talk. No way for Carolina to win the division as Saints have the tie breaker. The only way for Carolina to win the division was Saints lose out and Carolina win out. Well Saints won and Carolina won, so if Saints lose and Carolina wins next week, tie record, Saints win the division. Or is this just normal TV making drama out of something already decided no matter what happens. Both Saints and Panthers are in now, that is confirmed.

um. they have the same record right now...

also, they are the nfc south. I think you need to go back to sleep.

[sherob]

I sure hope we don't see Vance Joseph back next year in Denver... Brock, geez!

[PoorMansCamaro]

Originally Posted by sherob

I sure hope we don't see Vance Joseph back next year in Denver... Brock, geez!

He was very sub par as the dolphins defensive coordinator. not sure why he was such a high commodity.

[hrpiii]

Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

um. they have the same record right now...

also, they are the nfc south. I think you need to go back to sleep.

good grief, trying to multi-task worked out great, along with my cold medicine. But what I was trying to say was this from the USA Today, and NFL Game day... "The Saints needed a win and a Panthers loss to clinch the division"... for the Saints to win the Division. That is not true.

If the Saints and Panthers win, both have 12-4 records, Saints get the tie breaker from beating the Panthers twice this year. The only way it works is if Saints lose and Panthers win to get the Panthers the division win. I'm not sure either situation helps the Panthers in the post season as I don't see them going to far with the offense struggling most of the time. But great catch, maybe tomorrow I will have them in the NFC west..

[PoorMansCamaro]

Originally Posted by hrpiii

good grief, trying to multi-task worked out great, along with my cold medicine. But what I was trying to say was this from the USA Today, and NFL Game day... "The Saints needed a win and a Panthers loss to clinch the division"... for the Saints to win the Division. That is not true.

If the Saints and Panthers win, both have 12-4 records, Saints get the tie breaker from beating the Panthers twice this year. The only way it works is if Saints lose and Panthers win to get the Panthers the division win. I'm not sure either situation helps the Panthers in the post season as I don't see them going to far with the offense struggling most of the time. But great catch, maybe tomorrow I will have them in the NFC west..

But that is true. Had the panthers lost last week, they would have been 10-5. and the saints would have been (are) 11-4. They would have clinched because the best the panthers could have done was tie the saints next week, but the saints, as you said, wins the tie breaker.

They were just saying, if they wanted to clinch last week, that's what needed to happen. Now, the saints can lose the division, if they lose and panthers win.

[hrpiii]

Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

But that is true. Had the panthers lost last week, they would have been 10-5. and the saints would have been (are) 11-4. They would have clinched because the best the panthers could have done was tie the saints next week, but the saints, as you said, wins the tie breaker.

They were just saying, if they wanted to clinch last week, that's what needed to happen. Now, the saints can lose the division, if they lose and panthers win.

I agree with that. I don't see that happening for the Panthers, but a lot of weird things have happened in games this year. It always comes down to who has the healthiest teams going into the playoffs.

[PoorMansCamaro]

Actually, it looks like panthers have clinched already.

[PoorMansCamaro]

which is terrible news for Seattle. They need to win and they need Panthers to beat ATL, for them to make the playoffs. and ATL needs to win if they want to go to the playoffs.

[hrpiii]

Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

which is terrible news for Seattle. They need to win and they need Panthers to beat ATL, for them to make the playoffs. and ATL needs to win if they want to go to the playoffs.

Seattle just has zero offense weapons at the moment. Defense is so-so, but the offense is missing everything.

[Steve Dallas]

Originally Posted by hrpiii

Seattle just has zero offense weapons at the moment. Defense is so-so, but the offense is missing everything.

Except Russell Wilson...

[Joe M 2012 2SS]

Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

which is terrible news for Seattle. They need to win and they need Panthers to beat ATL, for them to make the playoffs. and ATL needs to win if they want to go to the playoffs.

I don't think there is any way ATL will beat Carolina unless the refs call the game the way they did in the first game ATL had with New Orleans. ATL had 9 first downs on penalties. Without these, not even counting the uncharacteristic interception Drew Brees threw at the end of the game, ATL would have lost.

It's got to be really hard for ATL to try and get back to the playoffs after throwing away the super bowl last year.

It's a shame because they have so many offensive weapons, they should be so much better than they are. Kind of reminds me of the LA Lakers when they had Shaq and Kobe, they couldn't win until Phil Jackson took over as coach.

If Russell Wilson had ATL's offense, Seattle would be a force to be reckoned with.

Which ever of these teams make the playoffs, I don't think will go far this year.

New England is playing even better this year than last, the Steelers are just as good. Though it would be cool for Minnesota or the Eagles to win a SB, since neither team ever has, both NE and PB have, and have to be the fav whichever team makes it to the SB.

Now someone get the Texans to trade Deshaun Watson for Matt Ryan in ATL. Lets bring Gruden (Chuckie) out of retirement and get him to coach ATL, and we get back to the SB and win! (This will never happen!)

Could someone also get the Lions 1 star receiver, 1 good running back, and a couple better OL players. Matthew Stafford is going to end up like Dan Marino. Great QB who never won a SB. Better yet trade him for Matt Ryan! (This won't ever happen either!)

Your Dolphins have a good defense. Could they get a QB and an O line? That's all they really need.

PATS or STEELERS win SB this year.

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I was right there with you until the Stafford / Marino thing....Staffords good, but no Marino

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