2013 Mustang GT500 MEGA THREAD - Page 224

tt335ci03cobra · 06-27-2012, 11:58 AM

Good thing is brake ducting kits are about $150. For guys who buy entire wheel combos specifically for racing (slicks/skinnies; lightweights with grip slicks), a brake pad, fluid and $150 duct kit will not break the bank.

Stew · 06-27-2012, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tt335ci03cobra

Good thing is brake ducting kits are about $150. For guys who buy entire wheel combos specifically for racing (slicks/skinnies; lightweights with grip slicks), a brake pad, fluid and $150 duct kit will not break the bank.

I agree and I would guess most people really racing will change pads at minimum anyways since most OEM pads always give up some resistance to fade for resistance to noise and brake dust.

A-little-perspective · 06-27-2012, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tt335ci03cobra

The brakes sound like a major hang up. Some carbon race pads and dot4 should be put on right away.

I am willing to bet the owners manual says to put better break fluid in if you are going to the track. The Boss owners manual does.

tt335ci03cobra · 06-27-2012, 01:37 PM

Ya, a little brake tune up will go a long way.

I bet it's not too hard to get some stainless lines installed as well. Just need a 1 man brake bleed kit and some time to kill haha.

If I had a gt500 or zl1, I'd change out the fluids for synchromesh/synchromax gear oil, royal purple engine oil, dot 4 brake fluid, and racier brake pads and some NGK TR6's.

Hell, I'd probably even throw a little blinker fluid and grease the muffler bearings too. A little tune up goes a long way.

eolson · 06-27-2012, 03:34 PM

It's great to know that the 57%/43% weight distribution, fixed axel, low tech, over powered Mustang is keeping right in step with the ZL1 with the times at the track. Clearly they need to put a ducting solution in that car. Sweeeet! Erik

ihaveacamaro · 06-27-2012, 05:04 PM

That was a nice read. It was really cool to see that if the two cars started the lap at the exact same time, the lead changes 12 times.

Amazing how balanced both of these cars are.

Personally I can see the most extreme modding enthusiasts, people who only want to drag race, true racers as they can consistently put out amazing times, and people who only care about numbers (generally not enthusiast, but rather show offs, these guys will trade when the next biggest and baddest thing come out) and of course die-hard Ford guys choosing the GT500, while the ZL1 attracts to people who want something more liveable, yet still amazing at the track with better and more consistent handling, and of course the die-hard Chevy guys.

I may be biased, but I think the ZL1 looks better too

devildog1679 · 06-27-2012, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ihaveacamaro

That was a nice read. It was really cool to see that if the two cars started the lap at the exact same time, the lead changes 12 times.

Amazing how balanced both of these cars are.

Personally I can see the most extreme modding enthusiasts, people who only want to drag race, true racers as they can consistently put out amazing times, and people who only care about numbers (generally not enthusiast, but rather show offs, these guys will trade when the next biggest and baddest thing come out) and of course die-hard Ford guys choosing the GT500, while the ZL1 attracts to people who want something more liveable, yet still amazing at the track with better and more consistent handling, and of course the die-hard Chevy guys.

I may be biased, but I think the ZL1 looks better too

I'm a 2012 GT owner and I would agree with you that the ride on 5.0 is more harsh due to LRA and that the Camaro looks better.

eolson · 06-27-2012, 06:55 PM

This is nice.....Erik

SEVEN-OH JOE · 06-27-2012, 07:23 PM

With a 24% power-to-weight advantage for the GT500, it's very surprizing the two are that close.

THAT is the difference between a V6 Mustang (3446/305 hp) and a 1SS Camaro (3860/426 hp).

THE VERY SAME!

How do THOSE TWO compare?

nester7929 · 06-27-2012, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SEVEN-OH JOE

With a 24% power-to-weight advantage for the GT500, it's very surprizing the two are that close.

THAT is the difference between a V6 Mustang (3446/305 hp) and a 1SS Camaro (3860/426 hp).

THE VERY SAME!

How do THOSE TWO compare?

Once you get to the level of horsepower that the GT500 and ZL1 are at, the effects of horsepower/torque aren't as pronounced.

72MachOne99GT · 06-27-2012, 08:27 PM

Diminishing returns.

Add 100 HP to a 14 second car, and add 100 hp to a 10 second car. Your return won't be as good of an investment on the faster car.

Sax1031 · 06-27-2012, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SEVEN-OH JOE

With a 24% power-to-weight advantage for the GT500, it's very surprizing the two are that close.

THAT is the difference between a V6 Mustang (3446/305 hp) and a 1SS Camaro (3860/426 hp).

THE VERY SAME!

How do THOSE TWO compare?

it shows on the drag strip and in the acceleration tests.

eolson · 06-27-2012, 09:01 PM

Here's comments from driver from Raven Racing driving Sebring Raceway with better dot brake fluid and stock tires. His time was 2:29. Erik

tt335ci03cobra · 06-27-2012, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by eolson

Here's comments from driver from Raven Racing driving Sebring Raceway with better dot brake fluid and stock tires. His time was 2:29. Erik

Holy hell; 2 seconds from a slicked zr1? Whole different level of wtf fast.

View Poll Results: ZL1 or GT500, Which one would you get?
ZL1	5	35.71%
GT500	9	64.29%
Voters: 14. You may not vote on this poll

06-27-2012, 11:58 AM	#3123
tt335ci03cobra Drives: 03 cobra 5.3 4v fgt's+62's Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: USA Posts: 146	Good thing is brake ducting kits are about $150. For guys who buy entire wheel combos specifically for racing (slicks/skinnies; lightweights with grip slicks), a brake pad, fluid and $150 duct kit will not break the bank. __________________ Silver 03 cobra coupe -Full mm/ftbr chassis, built irs/t56, 3.73s, trutrac -Braces, 6pt, flsc's, brembos, rotary forged sochi's -9.3/1 Livernois 5.3 modular, Diamond, Carrillo etc -FGT heads stage 3 PnP'd, MMR stage 3 turbo grinds -FR500c, custom split maf dual inlet, single blade etc -Comp 62/65 T4's 3xbb, oil/water cooled, blankets etc -CG Fab. ff headers, custom 3" hotside, Tial wastegates -Dual in/out 3" cold side, Tial bov's, Truboost, SCT, NGk -Custom 8qt oil, dual 405s return fuel with id2000's, etc

06-27-2012, 01:37 PM	#3126
tt335ci03cobra Drives: 03 cobra 5.3 4v fgt's+62's Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: USA Posts: 146	Ya, a little brake tune up will go a long way. I bet it's not too hard to get some stainless lines installed as well. Just need a 1 man brake bleed kit and some time to kill haha. If I had a gt500 or zl1, I'd change out the fluids for synchromesh/synchromax gear oil, royal purple engine oil, dot 4 brake fluid, and racier brake pads and some NGK TR6's. Hell, I'd probably even throw a little blinker fluid and grease the muffler bearings too. A little tune up goes a long way. __________________ Silver 03 cobra coupe -Full mm/ftbr chassis, built irs/t56, 3.73s, trutrac -Braces, 6pt, flsc's, brembos, rotary forged sochi's -9.3/1 Livernois 5.3 modular, Diamond, Carrillo etc -FGT heads stage 3 PnP'd, MMR stage 3 turbo grinds -FR500c, custom split maf dual inlet, single blade etc -Comp 62/65 T4's 3xbb, oil/water cooled, blankets etc -CG Fab. ff headers, custom 3" hotside, Tial wastegates -Dual in/out 3" cold side, Tial bov's, Truboost, SCT, NGk -Custom 8qt oil, dual 405s return fuel with id2000's, etc

06-27-2012, 03:34 PM	#3127
eolson eolson Drives: 2006 premium Package Mustang GT cou Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Northville, MI Posts: 249	It's great to know that the 57%/43% weight distribution, fixed axel, low tech, over powered Mustang is keeping right in step with the ZL1 with the times at the track. Clearly they need to put a ducting solution in that car. Sweeeet! Erik __________________ 2006 Prem Pkg Mustang GT coupe. Saleen SC,10psi, 454rwhp,442rwtq, Complete Steeda/H&R, suspension change out, with weight loss, Techco Watts link, Stoptech big brakes, Race clutch, Alum. flywheel, Alum 1 pc driveshaft, 9x18,10x18 chrome bullit wheels, 285/40/18,255/45/18 nitto 555 tires. 3545 lbs currently. New car scent air freshener.

06-27-2012, 05:04 PM	#3128
ihaveacamaro I like teeth. Drives: #198 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, Florida Posts: 4,817	That was a nice read. It was really cool to see that if the two cars started the lap at the exact same time, the lead changes 12 times. Amazing how balanced both of these cars are. Personally I can see the most extreme modding enthusiasts, people who only want to drag race, true racers as they can consistently put out amazing times, and people who only care about numbers (generally not enthusiast, but rather show offs, these guys will trade when the next biggest and baddest thing come out) and of course die-hard Ford guys choosing the GT500, while the ZL1 attracts to people who want something more liveable, yet still amazing at the track with better and more consistent handling, and of course the die-hard Chevy guys. I may be biased, but I think the ZL1 looks better too __________________ . Please check out my youtube detailing channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/roshan517 "When you want to succeed as bad as you want to breathe, then you will be successful."

06-27-2012, 06:55 PM	#3130
eolson eolson Drives: 2006 premium Package Mustang GT cou Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Northville, MI Posts: 249	This is nice.....Erik Attached Images __________________ 2006 Prem Pkg Mustang GT coupe. Saleen SC,10psi, 454rwhp,442rwtq, Complete Steeda/H&R, suspension change out, with weight loss, Techco Watts link, Stoptech big brakes, Race clutch, Alum. flywheel, Alum 1 pc driveshaft, 9x18,10x18 chrome bullit wheels, 285/40/18,255/45/18 nitto 555 tires. 3545 lbs currently. New car scent air freshener.

06-27-2012, 07:23 PM	#3131
SEVEN-OH JOE Account Suspended Drives: some to distraction Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Location: Location: Posts: 627	With a 24% power-to-weight advantage for the GT500, it's very surprizing the two are that close. THAT is the difference between a V6 Mustang (3446/305 hp) and a 1SS Camaro (3860/426 hp). THE VERY SAME! How do THOSE TWO compare?

06-27-2012, 09:01 PM	#3135
eolson eolson Drives: 2006 premium Package Mustang GT cou Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Northville, MI Posts: 249	Here's comments from driver from Raven Racing driving Sebring Raceway with better dot brake fluid and stock tires. His time was 2:29. Erik Attached Images __________________ 2006 Prem Pkg Mustang GT coupe. Saleen SC,10psi, 454rwhp,442rwtq, Complete Steeda/H&R, suspension change out, with weight loss, Techco Watts link, Stoptech big brakes, Race clutch, Alum. flywheel, Alum 1 pc driveshaft, 9x18,10x18 chrome bullit wheels, 285/40/18,255/45/18 nitto 555 tires. 3545 lbs currently. New car scent air freshener.