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Old 12-05-2009, 10:00 PM   #3011
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OK I can see your point if they scored 30. But they scored 13..

UF's avg. points per game is 35.6.. If they had scored their average they would have won...

So is that your offenses' fault or their defenses' fault???
Listen, I'm not saying that our offense played without fault. We had way too many penalties, and mental mistakes. However the defense has a hand in this too.

When you give up long drawn out drives to teams that eventually score, a few things happen.

1. You can't really get into a rhythm. This may seem over rated, but certain teams get better as the game goes on because they are able to build an offensive rhythm. Texas is well known for their weak starts and strong finishes.... and that was a theme of this year's season.

2. It eat's up a lot of clock. One drive Alabama had went almost 9 minutes. We got the ball to start the 3rd... dive play, 0 yards. Two dropped passes in a row and its 3&out. punt. The next time we touched the ball, it was in the 4th quarter. That REALLY screws with a team mentally, as well as preventing your offensive game-plan from being established. Because we fell behind so early, and their drives were so time consuming, we were unable to establish the run. We had 14 rushing attempts the whole game... and 10 were with Tebow running. Running the ball is a huge part of our offense (like 60-70%), and we were unable to establish that because of the clock management done by Alabama. Give them credit, but again, our defense needs to step up.

3. Playing against the lead. This has a little to do with what I talked about in 2, but when your down multiple scores and you know your Defense hasn't been able to stop the other team what do you do? You press down field because you know that you can't burn a lot of clock, but you know you need to score. We threw the ball MUCH more than our game-plan intended, and it was because they jumped out ahead. Lets say hypothetically, our defense holds them on their 3rd quarter drive... it's 19 - 12, and we can run anything in our playbook because its a one possession game. When your down multiple scores, you press the passing game, and that's what we did and it didn't work out. It's exactly what Bama wanted, and it played away from the strength of our Offense.
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Old 12-05-2009, 10:01 PM   #3012
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give it till tomorrow and I'll let you post it... Like tomorrow morning.


Please... No need to rub it in...

Sounds weak but please...
Yeah, we were hammering him pretty hard. It was fun.
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Old 12-05-2009, 10:02 PM   #3013
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Ok, now let him put it up.
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Old 12-05-2009, 10:02 PM   #3014
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Ummm it's a picture from the game and this is the trash talk thread....
I don't mind, that's who he is. I respect him for being able to express himself so freely whether it be his belief in God or his emotions.


Besides, if we were going to talk trash, I'd have to look up the scores for the oh-wait-this-is-awkward-bowl for UCF and Michigan.


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You say you know football, but you say Lloyd Carr was fired. You know he retired right? Your football knowledge is amazing.



Yea thats what happens when the program asks you to leave.
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Old 12-05-2009, 10:02 PM   #3015
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Ummm it's a picture from the game and this is the trash talk thread....
Yeah!!!!
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Old 12-05-2009, 10:03 PM   #3016
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DAMMIT!! It's gone again.
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Old 12-05-2009, 10:03 PM   #3017
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Ummm it's a picture from the game and this is the trash talk thread....
I'm just asking you for a favor. too much to ask.



Can you do that? just be cool about it? Shouldn't be that unreasonable of me, is it?
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Old 12-05-2009, 10:04 PM   #3018
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I'm just asking you for a favor. too much to ask.



Can you do that? just be cool about it? Shouldn't be that unreasonable of me, is it?
He just said it was OK. I don't see what the big deal is lol.
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Old 12-05-2009, 10:06 PM   #3019
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Old 12-05-2009, 10:12 PM   #3020
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Listen, I'm not saying that our offense played without fault. We had way too many penalties, and mental mistakes. However the defense has a hand in this too.

When you give up long drawn out drives to teams that eventually score, a few things happen.

1. You can't really get into a rhythm. This may seem over rated, but certain teams get better as the game goes on because they are able to build an offensive rhythm. Texas is well known for their weak starts and strong finishes.... and that was a theme of this year's season.

2. It eat's up a lot of clock. One drive Alabama had went almost 9 minutes. We got the ball to start the 3rd... dive play, 0 yards. Two dropped passes in a row and its 3&out. punt. The next time we touched the ball, it was in the 4th quarter. That REALLY screws with a team mentally, as well as preventing your offensive game-plan from being established. Because we fell behind so early, and their drives were so time consuming, we were unable to establish the run. We had 14 rushing attempts the whole game... and 10 were with Tebow running. Running the ball is a huge part of our offense (like 60-70%), and we were unable to establish that because of the clock management done by Alabama. Give them credit, but again, our defense needs to step up.

3. Playing against the lead. This has a little to do with what I talked about in 2, but when your down multiple scores and you know your Defense hasn't been able to stop the other team what do you do? You press down field because you know that you can't burn a lot of clock, but you know you need to score. We threw the ball MUCH more than our game-plan intended, and it was because they jumped out ahead. Lets say hypothetically, our defense holds them on their 3rd quarter drive... it's 19 - 12, and we can run anything in our playbook because its a one possession game. When your down multiple scores, you press the passing game, and that's what we did and it didn't work out. It's exactly what Bama wanted, and it played away from the strength of our Offense.
Look that all sounds great. But it ignores on glaring point. That Tim wasn't used to having to play from behind. And when Bama jumps out to a 9 point lead early. Tim got rattled early. they get it close 10-12 and Bama answers back... In my opinion your offense took a hit to their confidence which they couldn't over come... Dropped balls in the red zone.... Sure that's all cus they are pressing. But the best of teams can press and not make mistakes. FL coudn't... And that is the ofenses' job to score points. So either your offense was bad or thier defense was good. Their Defense didn't score a single point.....

I guess we are just at a difference of opinion.
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Old 12-05-2009, 10:16 PM   #3021
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Look that all sounds great. But it ignores on glaring point. That Tim wasn't used to having to play from behind. And when Bama jumps out to a 9 point lead early. Tim got rattled early. they get it close 10-12 and Bama answers back... In my opinion your offense took a hit to their confidence which they couldn't over come... Dropped balls in the red zone.... Sure that's all cus they are pressing. But the best of teams can press and not make mistakes. FL coudn't... And that is the ofenses' job to score points. So either your offense was bad or thier defense was good. Their Defense didn't score a single point.....

I guess we are just at a difference of opinion.
I can't argue with common sense.
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Old 12-05-2009, 10:16 PM   #3022
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LOL, well, um...GO BSU!
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Old 12-05-2009, 10:17 PM   #3023
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Looks like Colt McCoy's Heisman hopes have gone down the tube. Man, that Nebraska defense is stout!!!
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LOL, well, um...GO BSU!


No, you can't join the Pac-10...

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