FDA Approved Pfizer for 16+ [CLOSED DUE TO POLITICS]

[Aragorn]

Originally Posted by hotlap

Are children affected by those?
Are children affected by COVID?

The LA school district has mandated COVID vaccinations for children 12 and older. The parents of those children (and all others IMO) should be able to take their share of school funding and go elsewhere.

Yes children are being affected by Covid.

[Aragorn]

Last week, Kentucky reported more than 30,000 new cases, according to Gov. Andy Beshear, a weekly record since the onset of the pandemic.

“Our hospital situation has never been more dire in my lifetime than it is right now,” Beshear said. “We cannot handle more sick individuals.”

More than 400 members of the Kentucky National Guard, as well as strike teams from the Federal Emergency Management Agency's emergency medical services, have now been deployed to help struggling hospitals across the state.

[Aragorn]

TALLAHASSEE — Florida reached another grim Covid milestone amid the Delta surge: Since August, the number of Covid-related child deaths in the state has more than doubled.

The childhood fatalities have left pediatric experts deeply concerned about how the virus will affect youngsters in the months ahead as children interact in classrooms, even as the overall number of infections and hospitalizations in the state appears to be cresting.

[Aragorn]

United States

Coronavirus Cases:
41,743,069
Deaths:
677,037
Recovered:
31,820,996

[95 imp]

Originally Posted by Aragorn

Last week, Kentucky reported more than 30,000 new cases, according to Gov. Andy Beshear, a weekly record since the onset of the pandemic.

“Our hospital situation has never been more dire in my lifetime than it is right now,” Beshear said. “We cannot handle more sick individuals.”

More than 400 members of the Kentucky National Guard, as well as strike teams from the Federal Emergency Management Agency's emergency medical services, have now been deployed to help struggling hospitals across the state.

So, let's break this down by statistics:

Out of 30K, there will be 24K (80%) which have mild to no symptoms. Out of the remaining 6K
an unknown amount will need some sort of medical treatment.

That means a visit to a doctor's office, an ER, hospital stay, or ICU bed.

It wouldn't be all 6,000 people need an automatic hospital trip.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by Aragorn

Yes children are being affected by Covid.

Do me a major. Post the hospitalization and death statistics for US ages 12 to 17 as a percentage of their population.

The LA school district has mandated COVID vaccinations for children 12 and older. The parents of those children (and all others IMO) should be able to take their share of school funding and go elsewhere.

[95 imp]

Originally Posted by Aragorn

TALLAHASSEE — Florida reached another grim Covid milestone amid the Delta surge: Since August, the number of Covid-related child deaths in the state has more than doubled.

The childhood fatalities have left pediatric experts deeply concerned about how the virus will affect youngsters in the months ahead as children interact in classrooms, even as the overall number of infections and hospitalizations in the state appears to be cresting.

So, if 1 child died previously, and 3 have died since August, we now have a more than doubling in the death rate.

You can't take these news reports at face value....

[bigd1276]

Originally Posted by Moto-Mojo

Several "friends" when I posed my India death vs USA question on them. Their answer was simply, Google is wrong and India is underreporting. Or is incapable of accurate reporting. Yet for any other subject, Google is their definitive, go-to source.

Not only has death and despair been sold to us through relentless marketing, now people absolutely want it, need it, eat it, sleep it and drink it in. They so desperately WANT more dead than is being reported in India...and everywhere. It helps feed their fear.

I’m starting to think that Aragorn falls into that category.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by Aragorn

Yes children are being affected by Covid.

My state of Wisconsin reports the following
5,220,000 population
648,240 cases (~15%)

Cases are equivalent to being vaccinated IMO. Meaningless. Hospitalized and deaths are the measure.

https://www.dhs.wisconsin.gov/covid-19/cases.htm

If we were following the science, our focus would be on those with comorbidities and the elderly. Forcing vaccines on those under 40 isn’t needed.

[strykerg8gt]

Originally Posted by hotlap

Do me a major. Post the hospitalization and death statistics for US ages 12 to 17 as a percentage of their population.

The LA school district has mandated COVID vaccinations for children 12 and older. The parents of those children (and all others IMO) should be able to take their share of school funding and go elsewhere.

We know Covid affects the younger population less severely. It's never been about that. The problem is that children are the ultimate incubator and mode of transportation for the virus. It's not about how it affects them, it's about who they can give it to.

As for taking your tax dollars and going to private schools, have at it. I've seen how that works out first hand. But that's a whole different conversation.

And for all the folks saying we tried following the mask rules and it didn't work, well that's because people wouldn't use the masks correctly. That's why I don't trust a good number of people in this country. They're willing to put more effort into crying than actually helping.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by strykerg8gt

We know Covid affects the younger population less severely. It's never been about that. The problem is that children are the ultimate incubator and mode of transportation for the virus. It's not about how it affects them, it's about who they can give it to.

As for taking your tax dollars and going to private schools, have at it. I've seen how that works out first hand. But that's a whole different conversation.

And for all the folks saying we tried following the mask rules and it didn't work, well that's because people wouldn't use the masks correctly. That's why I don't trust a good number of people in this country. They're willing to put more effort into crying than actually helping.

No. It does not. See WI State data in #275.

My wife works in a public middle school specifically dealing with physically and developmentally disabled. She had one student (4th grade) hospitalized. He already had severe respiratory birth defects but survived.

[strykerg8gt]

Originally Posted by hotlap

No. It does not. See WI State data in #275.

My wife works in a public middle school specifically dealing with physically and developmentally disabled. She had one student (4th grade) hospitalized. He already had severe respiratory birth defects but survived.

Underlying health issues are a while different story.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by strykerg8gt

Underlying health issues are a while different story.

look at the data. #275

[FarmerFran]

Originally Posted by hotlap

Are children affected by those?
Are children affected by COVID?

The LA school district has mandated COVID vaccinations for children 12 and older. The parents of those children (and all others IMO) should be able to take their share of school funding and go elsewhere.

Beats the crap out of me, This is the list of vaccinations children need to go to public schools in CA.