SSC Ultimate Aero vs Bugatti Veryon

[Mr. Wyndham]

Aero because it's faster, less expensive, uses a SBC, and it's American...but the Veyron is much more...complete. It's well put-together, and well-thought out.

...Not to mention I love that muscley-backpack look it has with those scoops.

[The_Blur]

The Veyron loses to the SSC. There's just no contest. If you're looking for a raw, concentrated performer, the Ultimate Aero is it.

[Mr CLuTcH]

Originally Posted by The_Blur

The Veyron loses to the SSC. There's just no contest. If you're looking for a raw, concentrated performer, the Ultimate Aero is it.

Personally, despite the Aero being a bit faster, I'd take the Veyron, it has a more luxurious interior, and I think it looks better. To me, based upon the performance of each car, the Veyron is much more stable and way better built, while the Aero just seems to be a about more raw power and having a higher top-speed while lacking everything else.

The Ultimate Aero with that much power, has no traction control, I can't imagine driving that thing in the rain;...talk about dangerous. The Bugatti on the other hand has traction control and stability control(which can be turned off) and performs in the rain as if it's driving on a dry desert plain. We haven't seen the Aero in those conditions as of yet, so we can't say much. But from what I've seen, the Bugatti is absolutely amazing in all conditions. It's nearly impossible to get this car to lose control or grip in even the toughest of settings. The Bugatti has a faster 0-60 time also: 2.5 Bugatti-2.7 Aero.

The Bugatti also has a shorter stopping distance because of it's massive brakes and retractable spoiler, it does 0-60 in 2.5 seconds yet the car can be stopped from 100mph in a shorter amount of time "2.3 seconds". And even the 248mph deceleration is accomplished in a matter of less than 10 seconds. That's mind blowing. The aero too has a retractable spoiler, which can be adjusted to the drivers brake speed but in the Veyron, everything is fully automatic.

And actually, for the record, the Bugatti may currently have a hp rating of
"1001 horsepower" but in August the Bugati Veryon "SS" is set to debut at Pebble Beach Concours d’Elegance autoshow. The new Bugatti sheds 220lbs and boast a new hp rating of "1200 horsepower" and achieves a top speed of 264mph while also achieving a faster 0-60 time of 2.2 seconds.

Currently, the Ultimate Aero holds the world record with an official top speed of 257mph on a public highway road, if given more space it could probably achieve a higher top speed, but once the Bugatti SS debuts it should then hold the new record until the makers of the Aero can find a mass of land long enough to allow the Aero to achieve a higher speed than 257mph because from the looks of it, it's VERY capable.

Here is another interesting fact I stumbled across while watching the making of the Bugatti Veyron,....the W16 engine the Bugatti uses may have a 1,001 horsepower rating from the factory, but during the making, it was revealed that the engine is actually a 3,000 horsepower engine, but the power was purposely reduced to 1,001 because Bugatti technicians haven't found a way to support that much power in a streetable environment, while also mentioning new tires would have to developed and tested before that much power would ever reach a safe production model. And when tires were to ever be developed for that much power, expect the price of the Bugatti's tires to also go up,.....right now, to replace a Bugatti Veyron tire is $17,000k a tire. That's ridiculous. It also came out that during the testing of the W16 engine, the heat the engine output was so high it nearly melted the room it was encased in; testers thought the building had caught fire! So for it's power it outputs an extreme amount of heat, and you can be sure there more where that came from.

I forgot to mention that the makes of SSC Ultimate Aero took the car overseas to Dubia to sell it to the Sheik, according to SSC the Sheik told the person who maintains his car collection to bring out the Veyron....because he wanted to see which was faster- right now. So they brought out the Veyron, the Sheik in the Bugatti and the SSC guy in the Aero, there was a mile or 2 long stretch of road, and on the count of 3 the Sheik let the Bugatti loose, it pulled on the Aero at launch by 10 feet but afterwards SSC claims it bolted ahead of the Bugatti;they claim with every shift, they were 4-8 car lengths ahead of the Bugatti. That would mean, yes.....the Bugatti was no match for the Aero and it's lighter weight to power. (This video interview can be seen on youtube, just search Ultimate Aero Vs Bugatti Veyron, it'll turn up 1st page).

Right now, the SSC Ultimate Aero is the fastest production car in the world, and sports a much much lower price tag, even for the rich, around 625k to start; a Bugatti....1.2 million base, 1.7 million fully loaded will all it's extra amenities. If I had the money, I'd buy the Bugatti Veyron even though it may not be the fastest in the world, it's just shown to be more of a high quality car. I wouldn't mind owning the Ultimate Aero either for the 625+k price tag, but I'd get tired of the interior as opposed to the Bugatti's, it's speed would keep me attracted though.

As far as appearance, it's all personal preference, it totally depends upon the driver. I think the battle for "fastest car in the world" will definitely go on between Bugatti Automotive and SSC. Back and forth, back and forth. With this being the case, if you purchased either car you might as well say,.....you own one the fastest "cars" in the world because there will never be just one, because that title will always be temporary, once new ingenuity and brilliant minds come together, there will be yet another....."fastest car in the world".

[WadeWilson]

Originally Posted by Mr CLuTcH

Personally, despite the Aero being a bit faster, I'd take the Veyron, it has a more luxurious interior, and I think it looks better. To me, based upon the performance of each car, the Veyron is much more stable and way better built, while the Aero just seems to be a about more raw power and having a higher top-speed while lacking everything else.

The Ultimate Aero with that much power, has no traction control, I can't imagine driving that thing in the rain;...talk about dangerous. The Bugatti on the other hand has traction control and stability control(which can be turned off) and performs in the rain as if it's driving on a dry desert plain. We haven't seen the Aero in those conditions as of yet, so we can't say much. But from what I've seen, the Bugatti is absolutely amazing in all conditions. It's nearly impossible to get this car to lose control or grip in even the toughest of settings. The Bugatti has a faster 0-60 time also: 2.5 Bugatti-2.7 Aero.

The Bugatti also has a shorter stopping distance because of it's massive brakes and retractable spoiler, it does 0-60 in 2.5 seconds yet the car can be stopped from 100mph in a shorter amount of time "2.3 seconds". And even the 248mph deceleration is accomplished in a matter of less than 10 seconds. That's mind blowing. The aero too has a retractable spoiler, which can be adjusted to the drivers brake speed but in the Veyron, everything is fully automatic.

And actually, for the record, the Bugatti may currently have a hp rating of
"1001 horsepower" but in August the Bugati Veryon "SS" is set to debut at Pebble Beach Concours d’Elegance autoshow. The new Bugatti sheds 220lbs and boast a new hp rating of "1200 horsepower" and achieves a top speed of 264mph while also achieving a faster 0-60 time of 2.2 seconds.

Currently, the Ultimate Aero holds the world record with an official top speed of 257mph on a public highway road, if given more space it could probably achieve a higher top speed, but once the Bugatti SS debuts it should then hold the new record until the makers of the Aero can find a mass of land long enough to allow the Aero to achieve a higher speed than 257mph because from the looks of it, it's VERY capable.

Here is another interesting fact I stumbled across while watching the making of the Bugatti Veyron,....the W16 engine the Bugatti uses may have a 1,001 horsepower rating from the factory, but during the making, it was revealed that the engine is actually a 3,000 horsepower engine, but the power was purposely reduced to 1,001 because Bugatti technicians haven't found a way to support that much power in a streetable environment, while also mentioning new tires would have to developed and tested before that much power would ever reach a safe production model. And when tires were to ever be developed for that much power, expect the price of the Bugatti's tires to also go up,.....right now, to replace a Bugatti Veyron tire is $17,000k a tire. That's ridiculous. It also came out that during the testing of the W16 engine, the heat the engine output was so high it nearly melted the room it was encased in; testers thought the building had caught fire! So for it's power it outputs an extreme amount of heat, and you can be sure there more where that came from.

I forgot to mention that the makes of SSC Ultimate Aero took the car overseas to Dubia to sell it to the Sheik, according to SSC the Sheik told the person who maintains his car collection to bring out the Veyron....because he wanted to see which was faster- right now. So they brought out the Veyron, the Sheik in the Bugatti and the SSC guy in the Aero, there was a mile or 2 long stretch of road, and on the count of 3 the Sheik let the Bugatti loose, it pulled on the Aero at launch by 10 feet but afterwards SSC claims it bolted ahead of the Bugatti;they claim with every shift, they were 4-8 car lengths ahead of the Bugatti. That would mean, yes.....the Bugatti was no match for the Aero and it's lighter weight to power. (This video interview can be seen on youtube, just search Ultimate Aero Vs Bugatti Veyron, it'll turn up 1st page).

Right now, the SSC Ultimate Aero is the fastest production car in the world, and sports a much much lower price tag, even for the rich, around 625k to start; a Bugatti....1.2 million base, 1.7 million fully loaded will all it's extra amenities. If I had the money, I'd buy the Bugatti Veyron even though it may not be the fastest in the world, it's just shown to be more of a high quality car. I wouldn't mind owning the Ultimate Aero either for the 625+k price tag, but I'd get tired of the interior as opposed to the Bugatti's, it's speed would keep me attracted though.

As far as appearance, it's all personal preference, it totally depends upon the driver. I think the battle for "fastest car in the world" will definitely go on between Bugatti Automotive and SSC. Back and forth, back and forth. With this being the case, if you purchased either car you might as well say,.....you own one the fastest "cars" in the world because there will never be just one, because that title will always be temporary, once new ingenuity and brilliant minds come together, there will be yet another....."fastest car in the world".

Very nice write up. I knew a few of the stats you mentioned about the Bugatti but learned a few new things.

I'm interested in seeing this new Bugatti.

[DGthe3]

It was my understanding that the '3000 hp' engine of the Veyron is actually a result of the heat generated by the engine, based on the fact that internal combustion engines are usually around 33% efficient. So to generate 1000 hp mechanical hp, there is 2000 hp of heat generated. By the same logic, the LS3 produces around 1275 hp.

By the way, I like the SSC better but I wouldn't want either car. Ultra expensive cars don't do much for me. I'd rather dream about something I could actually afford.

[RedJewelSS]

i personally think its sinful the way the bugatti looks

[lil_chef]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

It was my understanding that the '3000 hp' engine of the Veyron is actually a result of the heat generated by the engine, based on the fact that internal combustion engines are usually around 33% efficient. So to generate 1000 hp mechanical hp, there is 2000 hp of heat generated. By the same logic, the LS3 produces around 1275 hp.

By the way, I like the SSC better but I wouldn't want either car. Ultra expensive cars don't do much for me. I'd rather dream about something I could actually afford.

or if you think about it, the engine itself could very well produce 3000 HP. its an 8.0L with 4 Turbochargers. i think the 1000 hp achieved is with conservative tuning.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by lil_chef

or if you think about it, the engine itself could very well produce 3000 HP. its an 8.0L with 4 Turbochargers. i think the 1000 hp achieved is with conservative tuning.

I doubt it. Tuning can only get you so far. I'm not even sure if there are any car engines that make 3000 hp on pump gas. 10.5 outlaw drag cars make around that power level, but its on race gas and I can't think those engines last too long before a rebuild is required. And they're simplier design would probably be more durable at those levels than a DOHC quad turbo W16.

[The_Blur]

Some people who have said that they would take the Veyron over the Ultimate Aero have pointed out that the Veyron has more luxury features. For the price tag, it should. Let's remember that the Veyron more than doubles the price of the Ultimate Aero. If you were to buy the vehicle for luxury reasons, why not choose one that offers the right comforts and impressive performance for a lot less?

[lil_chef]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

I doubt it. Tuning can only get you so far. I'm not even sure if there are any car engines that make 3000 hp on pump gas. 10.5 outlaw drag cars make around that power level, but its on race gas and I can't think those engines last too long before a rebuild is required. And they're simplier design would probably be more durable at those levels than a DOHC quad turbo W16.

upon further research those turbos are already pushing out 16lb of boost. im not sure how resilient the engine is but 16 lb seems like a massive number to begin with.

[Mr CLuTcH]

Originally Posted by The_Blur

Some people who have said that they would take the Veyron over the Ultimate Aero have pointed out that the Veyron has more luxury features. For the price tag, it should. Let's remember that the Veyron more than doubles the price of the Ultimate Aero. If you were to buy the vehicle for luxury reasons, why not choose one that offers the right comforts and impressive performance for a lot less?

Well, it all boils down to the money at your disposal, if your a multi-millionaire and you wanted one of the most fastest cars in the world with the luxury to go along with it, the Bugatti undoubtedly would be your first pick. The SSC Ultimate Aero IS the fastest car in the world, but I rather have something more stable for everyday driving, and for me that would be the Bugatti.

I rather have a car that is not only fast in a straight line, but a car that can maintain it's 1.3g grip in rain, snow, and around corners, rather than own a top speed beast: "SSC Ultimate Aero" but lose it's performance edge once the weather changes. The Bugatti doesn't suffer from any of those set-backs because of it's ESP stability control and traction system. I'd only buy the SSC Ultimate Aero if I just wanted to have the fastest car in the world, as far as everything else, comfort, luxury, stability intertwined with reliability,... I'd go for a Veyron.

or if you think about it, the engine itself could very well produce 3000 HP. its an 8.0L with 4 Turbochargers. i think the 1000 hp achieved is with conservative tuning.

3,000hp generated without any other drivetrain components, but on 91-93 octane after full assembly, 1,001hp and 1200hp ,....coming from the Bugatti Veyron "SS". If you watch the making of the car, the developers make it clear that they could crank out much more horsepower than 1,001 horsepower and power far beyond the 1200hp SS rating but they're main concern for putting this much power into a production model was the stability of the car beyond the 253mph top-speed standpoint. Bugatti has already admitted during development that the 1,001 hp Veyron can definitely achieve a higher speed than 253mph,....as can the Ultimate Aero, but when you venture into that high of a speed, they want the car to be as stable at 253mph as it is at a measly 120mph.

That can be a difficult engineering challenge to accomplish, considering the endurance of the tires and the weight of the car. But don't worry, leave it up to the engineers at Bugatti to figure out something to take they're top-speed crown back. Both cars the Bugatti Veyron, and the SSC Ultimate Aero are absolutely amazing cars, if you can own either, consider yourself lucky. Owning a car simply because "its the fastest" seems pretty silly to me, there is always going to be something else better,.....given the time.

[TaylorRyanSS]

ZENVO ST1

[Mr CLuTcH]

Originally Posted by TaylorRyan74

ZENVO ST1

THAT CAR.....is AMAZING! I love the design. Very aggressive, yet futuristic. Still not in the Aero or Veyron league.

[TaylorRyanSS]

Originally Posted by Mr CLuTcH

THAT CAR.....is AMAZING! I love the design. Very aggressive, yet futuristic. Still not in the Aero or Veyron league.

1104 HP, 3 sec 0-60, $1.2 mil... I think that is in their league. I would take it over both of them. The SSC design looks like its from the early 2000s and I am not a big fan of the Buggati design either.