Hyundai Genesis Coupe, Competition or Fodder? - Page 2

diddiyo · 10-31-2008, 09:32 AM

Are red brembos better than the ones the camaro is getting? I have no idea about that stuff.

Hyundai once said the GenCoupe would be the cheapest 300hp car in the world. But that was before the pricing for the Camaro was released so we will have to see about that

CWI · 10-31-2008, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by diddiyo

Are red brembos better than the ones the camaro is getting? I have no idea about that stuff.

Hyundai once said the GenCoupe would be the cheapest 300hp car in the world. But that was before the pricing for the Camaro was released so we will have to see about that

No difference, just a color preference. Red just seems to shout performance and that's what many of us want our calipers to be. We love that agressive performance look. Most times it is better to get things like that from the factory rather than having to tamper with it yourself.

Crowley · 10-31-2008, 09:44 AM

I like it .... right now Hyundai is hungry and you have to keep your eye on them ... when you don't that is when they will suprise you ..

Crowley

StuMac · 10-31-2008, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by diddiyo

Are red brembos better than the ones the camaro is getting? I have no idea about that stuff.

Hyundai once said the GenCoupe would be the cheapest 300hp car in the world. But that was before the pricing for the Camaro was released so we will have to see about that

Yes, red is cooler and so helps keep the brakes cool.

SS4EVER · 10-31-2008, 09:49 AM

lol right, I agree. How hard is it for GM to paint the calipers red? However... If I'm not mistaken though the only SS is getting performance Brembo calipers, I don't know if that is even available on the Camaro V6 LT w RS....

If it's not then it's just a hop skip and a jump to your nearest auto parts store where you can buy a ceramic paint caliper kit for like $20.00 I've done it myself and it's not that hard...

CWI · 10-31-2008, 10:02 AM

Can that be done without removing the calipers? If you mask everything off good?

themossman · 10-31-2008, 10:12 AM

The folks that are saying Hyundai has a stereotype or image issue...it makes me a little sad.

They are REALLY putting serious effort into that car and bringing a serious performer in for a decent price point. As an enthusiast you should applaud their efforts...and hope they continue to get better...who knows what they could produce in 5 to 10 years...look at Nissan and what they've brought to the automotive world.

Oh...and don't forget about some of the images that GM carries...and the Camaro. Hello Pot.....meet Kettle.

That being said...I LOVE that GM brought in a 300hp car for UNDER what Hyundai brought the Genesis in at....it was a marketing coup.

SS4EVER · 10-31-2008, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by CWIweldace

Can that be done without removing the calipers? If you mask everything off good?

You can. Although it's a a lot easier to take the caliper off, and you'll do a much thorough job. I've done it with the caliper on, and off, and if I ever do it again I'll take the caliper off and that's what I advise... It's really not that hard...

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Originally Posted by themossman

The folks that are saying Hyundai has a stereotype or image issue...it makes me a little sad.

They are REALLY putting serious effort into that car and bringing a serious performer in for a decent price point. As an enthusiast you should applaud their efforts...and hope they continue to get better...who knows what they could produce in 5 to 10 years...look at Nissan and what they've brought to the automotive world.

Oh...and don't forget about some of the images that GM carries...and the Camaro. Hello Pot.....meet Kettle.

That being said...I LOVE that GM brought in a 300hp car for UNDER what Hyundai brought the Genesis in at....it was a marketing coupe.

Exactly and if you guys are already underestimating this car then you are making a grave mistake. I'm sure that most of you probably don't really follow the sport of "drifting" (I don't either actually) although most of you prob know what it is. It's starting to become more popular here in the states and one of the American drift team, Rhys Millen racing who is driven by professional drifter Rhys Millen, has driven two GM products, an 04 Pontiac GTO, and then they switched over to the Pontiac Solstice GXP.... Well they aren't driving both anymore... They will actually be using the Genesis Coupe...

So if you don't think GM isn't losing ground you're wrong. Also... the 2.0L 4cyl that's offered in the base model is actually the same block, and turbo that's used in the Mitsubishi Lancer EVO X... So there's going to be a huge aftermarket support for this car not to mention there's going to probably be 400hp turbo 4 Genesis coupes running around out there in the future, that will be biting at the rear of both the Camaro SS and V6 Camaro...

Georgie · 10-31-2008, 11:29 AM

that turbo will get tuned to 300whp within a month by tuners

Muscle Master · 10-31-2008, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Georgie

that turbo will get tuned to 300whp within a month by tuners

Thats all lol

way more than that

Georgie · 10-31-2008, 11:33 AM

haha yep. just being conservative

Mblock66 · 10-31-2008, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Georgie

that turbo will get tuned to 300whp within a month by tuners

You bet your ass it will, and then some. That application will probably be more popular and make more power in the long run b/c of the FI technology.

I am near and dear to the suabru market and I will tell you that with 2 grand a WRX will smoke the new SS. And that is a 4 cyl difference lol. FI is cheap and really puts a major advantage on the modability of a car.

Muscle Master · 10-31-2008, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mblock66

You bet your ass it will, and then some. That application will probably be more popular and make more power in the long run b/c of the FI technology.

I am near and dear to the suabru market and I will tell you that with 2 grand a WRX will smoke the new SS. And that is a 4 cyl difference lol. FI is cheap and really puts a major advantage on the modability of a car.

I rather stick with american built push-rod V8

Mblock66 · 10-31-2008, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Muscle Master

I rather stick with american built push-rod V8

As would I. I ventured into the Subaru world for the first time 4 years ago and I worked on the side with a well known tuning company for Subarus and other boosted aplications. I know alllll about how these things work and what can be done.

But through all of it and building a 12 second 2005 Legacy GT, I still miss my pushrod major TQ american V8. I have owned a 1968 GTO and 1997 Z28 and although neither was as fast, got as good MPG, or could be driven in bad weather as the Subaru......I still want to switch back.

Just don't underestimate these cars, you will be sorry lol

10-31-2008, 09:44 AM	#17
Crowley Okie doke Drives: 2012 GT500 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: McKinney Texas Posts: 3,567 View My Garage	I like it .... right now Hyundai is hungry and you have to keep your eye on them ... when you don't that is when they will suprise you .. Crowley __________________

10-31-2008, 09:49 AM	#19
SS4EVER Camaro Convert... Drives: 2006 Cobalt SS Supercharged Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Metro Detroit, Mi Posts: 595 View My Garage	lol right, I agree. How hard is it for GM to paint the calipers red? However... If I'm not mistaken though the only SS is getting performance Brembo calipers, I don't know if that is even available on the Camaro V6 LT w RS.... If it's not then it's just a hop skip and a jump to your nearest auto parts store where you can buy a ceramic paint caliper kit for like $20.00 I've done it myself and it's not that hard... __________________ 4 life! Currently Driving: 2006 Cobalt SS Supercharged

10-31-2008, 10:02 AM	#20
CWI Helping Build America Drives: 2010 2SS/RS,LS3 2013 Duramax 3500HD Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Freeport LPG Export Posts: 3,836 View My Garage	Can that be done without removing the calipers? If you mask everything off good? __________________ Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit, what a ride!"

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10-31-2008, 09:32 AM	#15
diddiyo Drives: . Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: . Posts: 3,048	Are red brembos better than the ones the camaro is getting? I have no idea about that stuff. Hyundai once said the GenCoupe would be the cheapest 300hp car in the world. But that was before the pricing for the Camaro was released so we will have to see about that

10-31-2008, 10:12 AM	#21
themossman Apprehensive Optimist Drives: '10 SS/RS SIM Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: JAX Posts: 1,383	The folks that are saying Hyundai has a stereotype or image issue...it makes me a little sad. They are REALLY putting serious effort into that car and bringing a serious performer in for a decent price point. As an enthusiast you should applaud their efforts...and hope they continue to get better...who knows what they could produce in 5 to 10 years...look at Nissan and what they've brought to the automotive world. Oh...and don't forget about some of the images that GM carries...and the Camaro. Hello Pot.....meet Kettle. That being said...I LOVE that GM brought in a 300hp car for UNDER what Hyundai brought the Genesis in at....it was a marketing coup.

10-31-2008, 11:29 AM	#23
Georgie Drives: Camaro... soon Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,217	that turbo will get tuned to 300whp within a month by tuners

10-31-2008, 11:33 AM	#25
Georgie Drives: Camaro... soon Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,217	haha yep. just being conservative