Lexus gets a "Do Not Buy" Rating from Consumer Reports

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by a_Username

One magazine isn't going to change people's mind. In order for something drastic to happen to Toyota, all the mags need to have some general consensous. The idea of Toyota being the safest, highest-quality vehicle is too far branded into the minds of the average consumer for it to be overthrown by one small magazine award.

the thing is Consumers Reports is not one small magazine. It is one of the most respected of these type publications, and like I said, Many people trust them without question.. hell they could tell people that the Yugo was a Best Buy and people would buy them like hotcakes... Believe me that they are listened to by all manufacturers...

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by Skyman 08

the thing is Consumers Reports is not one small magazine. It is one of the most respected of these type publications, and like I said, Many people trust them without question.. hell they could tell people that the Yugo was a Best Buy and people would buy them like hotcakes... Believe me that they are listened to by all manufacturers...

I really don't think people listen that closely to them. The news agressively reported Toyota's congressional hearings, but yet they were only a couple thousand units behind from being the number one automaker in the US.

[Easy Go]

There Toyota goes again - rolling over to please their customers.

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by a_Username

I really don't think people listen that closely to them. The news agressively reported Toyota's congressional hearings, but yet they were only a couple thousand units behind from being the number one automaker in the US.

It's because nobody trusts the news to be unbiased...

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by Skyman 08

It's because nobody trusts the news to be unbiased...

And people trust the likes of Consumer Reports and MotorTrend to be unbiased? They're paid in the same way news companies are, which is through advertisements.

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by a_Username

And people trust the likes of Consumer Reports and MotorTrend to be unbiased? They're paid in the same way news companies are, which is through advertisements.

One reason people trust Consumer reports is because they claim all their ratings are based on actual consumer surveys. And they also respect their tests as being unbiased because they do not accept advertizing from anyone...

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by a_Username

One magazine isn't going to change people's mind. In order for something drastic to happen to Toyota, all the mags need to have some general consensous. The idea of Toyota being the safest, highest-quality vehicle is too far branded into the minds of the average consumer for it to be overthrown by one small magazine award.

Consumer Reports is probably the most influential publication for typical buyers of Toyota's. It was largely due to CR that Toyota has their reputation. And they did all they could to perpetuate that idea too, by doing things like giving every single Toyota a recommended pick, even if they've never driven it.

I could go on and on about the problems I have with them, but I'll save it for another thread.

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by Skyman 08

One reason people trust Consumer reports is because they claim all their ratings are based on actual consumer surveys. And they also respect their tests as being unbiased because they do not accept advertizing from anyone...

I assumed Consumer Reports was paid through advertisements like MT, however it seems you're right on them being a non-profit organization.

[n!ght r!der]

Don't all SUV's have the tendency to flip if you are going fast around a sharp turn?

[DGthe3]

While this would be terrifying for a typical Lexus buyer, its a very impressive drift:

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Consumer Reports is probably the most influential publication for typical buyers of Toyota's. It was largely due to CR that Toyota has their reputation. And they did all they could to perpetuate that idea too, by doing things like giving every single Toyota a recommended pick, even if they've never driven it.

I could go on and on about the problems I have with them, but I'll save it for another thread.

CR has since then suspended their recommendation Toyota vehicles until the problem has been fixed. This combined with all the major news sources covering Toyota's problems still hasn't shown a decrease in sales. They were up 34% last month? Point is: Toyota's (previous) reputation has been branded into the minds of the average consumers, and despite all the negative media coverage, they still seem to come out ahead.

[n!ght r!der]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

While this would be terrifying for a typical Lexus buyer, its a very impressive drift:

I want one now! lol I could drift to work in this

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by masterofpuppets

Lexus/Toyota listened. They're stopping sales on the GX460

Definitely a cautionary move. They obviously don't want another unintended acceleration fiasco.

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by a_Username

CR has since then suspended their recommendation Toyota vehicles until the problem has been fixed. This combined with all the major news sources covering Toyota's problems still hasn't shown a decrease in sales. They were up 34% last month? Point is: Toyota's (previous) reputation has been branded into the minds of the average consumers, and despite all the negative media coverage, they still seem to come out ahead.

The only reason it hasn't effected thire sales that much is all the incentives they are now offereing that they never have had to offer before.. and some people will buy on that factor alone...