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Old 02-02-2010, 02:20 PM   #15
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If all that is true...
Then we know about it already, in detail...what does that tell you?
Tells me that it could be one of several things:
  1. It was intended to be decoy, to allow for another plan to be implemented, or simply to gauge response.
  2. It was a real plan and will likely be scrapped since it is known
  3. It was a real plan and won't be scrapped, because who would ever expect someone to follow a publically known plan?
  4. It was never real in any way, shape or form and was invented to create a story when there is nothing at all.
  5. It's something that exceeds the limits of my logic.
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no kidding. If we were to intervene I think it would be a quick bombing of enemy forces, and then let Israel take the situation over. At the moment I'm only aware of one way to 'win' a war there, and it wouldn't be pretty.
Something akin to the story of the 3rd Punic war?
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Old 02-02-2010, 02:24 PM   #16
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Something akin to the story of the 3rd Punic war?
Something like that, yes. Also, thanks, you just gave me something to read on Wikipedia for the next couple hours
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careful there. As a former Marine, I take offense to that statement.
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careful there. As a former Marine, I take offense to that statement.
My dad would take offense to the use of the word, "former". In his own words, "There are no former Marines. You are a Marine forever. Semper Fi!" I learned a long time ago to not argue with him.
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Tells me it won't happen now, because THEY know that WE know what THEY know...and.... argh, my head hurts now..


But seriously, if this were actually in planning, soon as they saw it in the news they'd scrap it and start planning something else.... unless this was leaked on purpose as a diversion. The intelligence world is a very complicated place.
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Tells me that it could be one of several things:
  1. It was intended to be decoy, to allow for another plan to be implemented, or simply to gauge response.
  2. It was a real plan and will likely be scrapped since it is known
  3. It was a real plan and won't be scrapped, because who would ever expect someone to follow a publically known plan?
  4. It was never real in any way, shape or form and was invented to create a story when there is nothing at all.
  5. It's something that exceeds the limits of my logic.
Pretty much. Either it's fake, or it's real and the fact it was 'leaked' means it was so low on the 'classified' list, that it's of little consequence.
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My dad would take offense to the use of the word, "former". In his own words, "There are no former Marines. You are a Marine forever. Semper Fi!" I learned a long time ago to not argue with him.
true enough, but if I tell the average civilian I am a Marine they will think i am still active duty. So I throw the former in there for clarification, but us Marines know how it is
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Something like that, yes. Also, thanks, you just gave me something to read on Wikipedia for the next couple hours
And for those that want the cliffs notes version of the story ...

At the time Rome wasn't terribly powerful. Carthage was a North African city/kingdom which had a very powerful navy. Rome and Carthage were battling over the island of Sicily because whoever controlled it controlled trade in the region. In the first Punic the Romans seized Sicily and stopped the Carthaginians from retaking it. The second was a series of tactical victories in modern day Spain and Italy by the Carthaginians, led by Hannibal (it is also when he led elephants across the alps). He was ultimately defeated once he exhausted his supplies and the Romans rebuilt their army.

In the 3rd and final Punic war, the Romans brought the war to Carthage itself. It is said that they once they captured the capital city (Carthage) they killed everyone, including women and children. After that, they burned it to the ground. But supposedly, they weren't done yet. The story goes that they then went and plowed salt into the surrounding fields, making them infertile for years to come. They completely obliterated the city and any potential to rebuild. The salting of the earth is likely untrue, but it is clear that they were sending a message: Don't p*ss us off , or you will be destroyed thoroughly and completely.
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Pretty much. Either it's fake, or it's real and the fact it was 'leaked' means it was so low on the 'classified' list, that it's of little consequence.
Or maybe its real, and the information was leaked to discourage the Hezbollah from proceeding with the attacks.


If I read the article correctly it appears as though there is some propaganda going on in the background....

"In recent weeks, both Hizballah and its Syrian allies have mobilized their forces while telling the Arab world that the Jewish state is about to attack Lebanon."

The Arabs are creating a bullshit story about Israeli aggression and using it to justify what they are about to do... This story being published publicly might be a message to the masses in those countries (many of which aren't extremists like their leaders) that it is the Arab nations who are initiating the violence, and that they are being lied to.


If that is the reason for this story going public... It's brilliant.
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Or maybe its real, and the information was leaked to discourage the Hezbollah from proceeding with the attacks.


If I read the article correctly it appears as though there is some propaganda going on in the background....

"In recent weeks, both Hizballah and its Syrian allies have mobilized their forces while telling the Arab world that the Jewish state is about to attack Lebanon."

The Arabs are creating a bullshit story about Israeli aggression and using it to justify what they are about to do... This story being published publicly might be a message to the masses in those countries (many of which aren't extremists like their leaders) that it is the Arab nations who are initiating the violence, and that they are being lied to.


If that is the reason for this story going public... It's brilliant.
agreed, IF those people read this version of the story, and not a 'local government approved' version
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Everyone even the US works up battle plans like that.

Though if they even flinch Israel is gonna nuke them into the stone age.
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Sounds like some new video game to me.

Trust me, if this was really happening, with Syria having forces mobilized, the Media would know about it. Some weak zero (officer) would have sold the info. and it would be all over the globe.

Besides, we are not yet ready to release all our new advanced stealth weapons. We do not want China and Russia to know how good they are.
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Sounds like some new video game to me.

Trust me, if this was really happening, with Syria having forces mobilized, the Media would know about it. Some weak zero (officer) would have sold the info. and it would be all over the globe.

Besides, we are not yet ready to release all our new advanced stealth weapons. We do not want China and Russia to know how good they are.
The media does know about it.
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Sounds like some new video game to me.

Trust me, if this was really happening, with Syria having forces mobilized, the Media would know about it. Some weak zero (officer) would have sold the info. and it would be all over the globe.

Besides, we are not yet ready to release all our new advanced stealth weapons. We do not want China and Russia to know how good they are.
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The media does know about it.
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