Why do we need Buick and GMC?

[Zabo]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Your answer to my delayed response is above.

Takes time to gather research and statistics.

Well s*it the bed. That answered my questions pretty quick.

I thought the Denali/Escalade argument was the other way around. Then again the average Escalade driver...

[BigRigMike]

Originally Posted by 1320junkie

Hey whats the top of the line buick? ( I really dont know)

I think it is the Lucerne...

Fen is the Regal going to replace the Lucerne

[MikesZ]

GMC has never made any sense to me...their trucks are just fancified Chevys.

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by Hylton

As a Yukon owner, I don't believe that for a second. How the hell do they come up with that stat? Will I always replace my Yukon with a Yukon? Absolutely but every GMC guy I know (a lot) would buy a Chevy tomorrow if we could not replace our GMC's with another one.

We're car enthusiasts. We're more than willing to replace our GMCs with Chevys because we're loyal to GM, not any specific brand. Many other people (who aren't necessarily car people) are unwilling to have to go to another brand (just look how hard it is to get people away from their toyondassans).

Plus, many GMC owners buy GMCs because they like the styling and design over the equivalent Chevrolet models. Spend a few months on a board like GMI where GMC is discussed to hell and back, and you'll find a few guys who would rather go to Ford or Dodge than trade in their Sierra for a Silverado...

Originally Posted by 1320junkie

Hey whats the top of the line buick? ( I really dont know)

Currently Lucerne, will be replaced by LaCrosse.

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by BigRigMike

I think it is the Lucerne...

Fen is the Regal going to replace the Lucerne

No, Regal is on SWB Epsilon II. It'll slot below LaCrosse (LWB Epsilon II), which will serve as Buick's new flagship. LaCrosse replaces Lucerne, Regal replaces last-gen LaCrosse in a way. Astra (Delta-II) will slot in below Regal.

Originally Posted by MikesZ

GMC has never made any sense to me...their trucks are just fancified Chevys.

Perhaps...but they still sell thousands of units a month with little to no extra development (R&D MONEY) over their Chevrolet counterparts.

[Hylton]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Spend a few months on a board like GMI where GMC is discussed to hell and back, and you'll find a few guys who would rather go to Ford or Dodge than trade in their Sierra for a Silverado...

Well that's just because the new Silverado looks like sh!t. If they put the front clip of a Tahoe on it, they'd be lining up....

[FenwickHockey65]

And if anyone wants to look at sales figures...

General Motors Global Sales, 2008

1. Chevrolet: 853,423 units sold
2. Opel/Vauxhall: 293,369 units sold
3. Wuling: 149,020 units sold
4. Buick: 96,484 units sold
5. GMC: 93,591 units sold
6. Pontiac: 62,812 units sold
7. Cadillac: 36,162 units sold
8. Holden: 32,569 units sold
9. Saturn: 32,382 units sold
10. Daewoo: 19,244 units sold
11. Saab: 17,921 units sold
12. Other brands: 8,326 units sold
13. Hummer: 7,246

Total: 1,702,549 units sold

[MikesZ]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

We're car enthusiasts. We're more than willing to replace our GMCs with Chevys because we're loyal to GM, not any specific brand. Many other people (who aren't necessarily car people) are unwilling to have to go to another brand (just look how hard it is to get people away from their toyondassans).

Plus, many GMC owners buy GMCs because they like the styling and design over the equivalent Chevrolet models. Spend a few months on a board like GMI where GMC is discussed to hell and back, and you'll find a few guys who would rather go to Ford or Dodge than trade in their Sierra for a Silverado...



Currently Lucerne, will be replaced by LaCrosse.

If the Suburban (future sole-surviving GM full-sized SUV?) absorbed some the Yukon's upgrades and the Silverado absorbed some of the Sierra's upgrades...I can't see why people wouldn't buy them. They are essentially the same vehicle. GM will eventually need to weed-out all the repetition in their product lines. Financial reality.

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by MikesZ

If the Suburban (future sole-surviving GM full-sized SUV?) absorbed some the Yukon's upgrades and the Silverado absorbed some of the Sierra's upgrades...I can't see why people wouldn't buy them. They are essentially the same vehicle. GM will eventually need to weed-out all the repetition in their product lines. Financial reality.

GM thought the same thing when they canned Oldsmobile.

I would assume they don't want to go down that road again.

[Hylton]

Originally Posted by NativeTexan

I like the Silverado front end better than the Tahoe.

You are a rare bird. It's not nicer than the Sierra.....not by a longshot!

[FenwickHockey65]

If anyone would like to do some reading, here's a commentary on the subject given by our chief editor at GMI...

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f...esigned-84193/

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by NativeTexan

I had only owned GM vehicles until 2003. I bought a Dodge Ram because the Silverado was so damn ugly. Now Dodge screwed the Ram up and I like the Silverado much better. I bought a Camaro because I don't need a truck anymore.

As long as you didn't buy this thing...

[MrIcky]

GMC is also Chevrolet's heavy truck division (ie topkick 6500s and such). So even if they got rid of Denali's- you'd really still need GMC for the commercial vehicles. Everyone forgets that GMC has a huge commercial truck operation lol.

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by MrIcky

GMC is also Chevrolet's heavy truck division (ie topkick 6500s and such). So even if they got rid of Denali's- you'd really still need GMC for the commercial vehicles. Everyone forgets that GMC has a huge commercial truck operation lol.

Actually, Chevrolet had their own commercial truck division, but that's irrelevant. GM has pulled out of the commercial truck market altogether, a decision I personally think is stupid.

However, you are correct in the fact that GMC still has a large fleet presence in that GM still offers the Sierra, Canyon, and Yukon as commercial fleet vehicles.