Buick Grand National on Alpha platform - Page 2

stoopid · 07-06-2015, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by arkentect

They need to stop bringing back previous works of art because a majority of these revamps are a disgrace to the Name. I say leave the grand national as the legend it is.

You mean... like the Camaro?

NASTY99Z28 · 07-06-2015, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by stoopid

You mean... like the Camaro?

Not even close to the same and it came back without changing the principal it was built on.

el ess A · 07-06-2015, 11:07 AM

Resurrection of options of years ago must be done with reason and some form of honor and link to the past. Simply slapping a badge on something and calling it a GNX is lazy. They need to link it to a very special, one-off, option that is like no other. Something worthy of the nameplate. And I can't see them getting it right with GNX.

stoopid · 07-06-2015, 11:08 AM

I agree guys, but there's no details about the car yet and already DOA?

*DGthe3* · 07-06-2015, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by NASTY99Z28

Not even close to the same and it came back without changing the principal it was built on.

And somehow reviving the Grand National requires changing the principal it was built on?

TommyTheCat · 07-06-2015, 02:25 PM

I would expect pricing to be closer to ATS-V range if it's got the same amount of HP. Not 40k, maybe 55k if it were true... which I'm skeptical about

arkentect · 07-06-2015, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by stoopid

You mean... like the Camaro?

True but talks of the new camaro did not come 30 years after its last production date... I mean look what they did to the GTO, Yayy a Grand Prix with a bigger motor. Dont even get me started on what Dodge did to the charger

FenwickHockey65 · 07-06-2015, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by arkentect

True but talks of the new camaro did not come 30 years after its last production date... I mean look what they did to the GTO, Yayy a Grand Prix with a bigger motor. Dont even get me started on what Dodge did to the charger

lol if you honestly think GTO was a Grand Prix with a bigger engine.

And what Dodge did to Charger has been pretty damn successful so...

*DGthe3* · 07-06-2015, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

lol if you honestly think GTO was a Grand Prix with a bigger engine.

And what Dodge did to Charger has been pretty damn successful so...

And lets not forget that the immediate predecessor to this Charger:

were these front wheel drive 4 cylinder Chargers from the 80s:

SSJ455 · 07-06-2015, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

lol if you honestly think GTO was a Grand Prix with a bigger engine.

And what Dodge did to Charger has been pretty damn successful so...

The Grand Prix looked much better.

newmoon · 07-06-2015, 03:35 PM

The GN is one of my all time favorite cars. It looked mean, drove mean, and just was nasty. I had set out to buy one while in the service in 1987 but the price tag of $17,500 was just out of reach, so I ended up with a new Mustang GT, I always regretted not buying one. Anyone who was into hotrods back in the 80s knows what these cars were all about, it really was amazing that compared to the Camaro, Mustang GT, and Corvette of the time this Buick could pound all of them.

TommyTheCat · 07-07-2015, 01:26 PM

Another thing... the picture of the "concept" so many people got excited about (because it's a damn good looking car I'll admit) was just a photoshop. I've yet to see a GM concept of it, I'm hopeful but extremely doubtful the GN will make a comeback anytime soon if ever.

Russell James · 07-07-2015, 02:05 PM

I had a GNX back in '87. Kept it for a few years and sold it for more than I paid for it new. Wish I still had it.

Funny thing is I still have the GNX owner's manual. Couldn't find it when selling the car and just came across it recently. Now I just need to find someone with a GNX that needs the manual. Pretty cool manual, talks about the ceramic turbo impeller, ladder bar suspension, chassis bracing...

That car was bad ass.

VADER SS L99 · 07-10-2015, 01:01 AM

I think a low production GNX and GN would be great for Buick recognition in America if nothing else. Make both 2 door, black and powered by a LF3 for the GN and LF4 for the GNX. Price the GNX $10k below the the ATS-V with a cloth interior and less interior options but have it use the same brakes, engine and transmission with mag ride being optional as well as other interior and other such options being optional. Price the GN with the LF3 about 5k less than a SS. Off course both need to make a bold statement in the looks department. They could also make a 2.0T rwd/awd Regal and call it a t type and offered in any color 2-4 doors. That would essentially be a ATS but they would need to price it at least $5k below a ATS with less interior refinement and base options. If you have ever driven a 2.0 ATS you would see that its a fantastic car but the entry price for one is out of alot of peoples budgets. What that would do is get people into dealerships. Hardly anyone thinks about a Buick when car shopping. I know when I helped my Mother and sister find a car I never even once thought about a Buick and I'm a car guy. If GM built a GNX it would get the brand the recognition it needs to get people thinking about Buick when they are looking for a new car. Even if they broke even with profits with the GN/GNX I think it might help overall profits and sales.

07-06-2015, 11:07 AM	#17
el ess A Older Than Dirt Drives: 2010 & 2013 Camaros Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Aiken, SC Posts: 4,685	Resurrection of options of years ago must be done with reason and some form of honor and link to the past. Simply slapping a badge on something and calling it a GNX is lazy. They need to link it to a very special, one-off, option that is like no other. Something worthy of the nameplate. And I can't see them getting it right with GNX. __________________ 2010 2SS TE, 1 of 822/2013 Camaro ZL1 vert, 1 of 54

07-06-2015, 03:35 PM	#25
newmoon Drives: 2019 GT350 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: NC Posts: 3,232	The GN is one of my all time favorite cars. It looked mean, drove mean, and just was nasty. I had set out to buy one while in the service in 1987 but the price tag of $17,500 was just out of reach, so I ended up with a new Mustang GT, I always regretted not buying one. Anyone who was into hotrods back in the 80s knows what these cars were all about, it really was amazing that compared to the Camaro, Mustang GT, and Corvette of the time this Buick could pound all of them. __________________ 2019 GT350 RR 2013 Boss Mustang 2012 SRT Challenger 392 auto 12:40s 112 stock 2012 Ford Mustang 5.0. Brembo, 3:73s 2010 SS, LS3, Cammed, LTs, 12:20s 2004 Redfire Cobra, Pullied & Tuned 1986 GT, Ed Curtis 347ci, 11:20s motor. 10:30s 100-hp shot

07-10-2015, 01:01 AM	#28
VADER SS L99 Drives: 2013 A6 GT 5.0 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 2,909	I think a low production GNX and GN would be great for Buick recognition in America if nothing else. Make both 2 door, black and powered by a LF3 for the GN and LF4 for the GNX. Price the GNX $10k below the the ATS-V with a cloth interior and less interior options but have it use the same brakes, engine and transmission with mag ride being optional as well as other interior and other such options being optional. Price the GN with the LF3 about 5k less than a SS. Off course both need to make a bold statement in the looks department. They could also make a 2.0T rwd/awd Regal and call it a t type and offered in any color 2-4 doors. That would essentially be a ATS but they would need to price it at least $5k below a ATS with less interior refinement and base options. If you have ever driven a 2.0 ATS you would see that its a fantastic car but the entry price for one is out of alot of peoples budgets. What that would do is get people into dealerships. Hardly anyone thinks about a Buick when car shopping. I know when I helped my Mother and sister find a car I never even once thought about a Buick and I'm a car guy. If GM built a GNX it would get the brand the recognition it needs to get people thinking about Buick when they are looking for a new car. Even if they broke even with profits with the GN/GNX I think it might help overall profits and sales. __________________ BLK/BLK 1SS/RS Ordered 11-01-2009 Took delivery 12-22-2009. Heads/cam/converter/bolt ons. SOLD Feb 2015 to fund 6th gen LT1 SS with 8L90E.

07-06-2015, 11:08 AM	#18
stoopid Drives: 4 wheels Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: anyplace, USA Posts: 1,177	I agree guys, but there's no details about the car yet and already DOA?

07-06-2015, 02:25 PM	#20
TommyTheCat SHKE BKE Drives: 2013 Camaro Join Date: May 2014 Location: SoCal Posts: 3,105	I would expect pricing to be closer to ATS-V range if it's got the same amount of HP. Not 40k, maybe 55k if it were true... which I'm skeptical about

07-07-2015, 01:26 PM	#26
TommyTheCat SHKE BKE Drives: 2013 Camaro Join Date: May 2014 Location: SoCal Posts: 3,105	Another thing... the picture of the "concept" so many people got excited about (because it's a damn good looking car I'll admit) was just a photoshop. I've yet to see a GM concept of it, I'm hopeful but extremely doubtful the GN will make a comeback anytime soon if ever.

07-07-2015, 02:05 PM	#27
Russell James Drives: '15 SS 1LE, '69 Z28 drag car Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Mich Posts: 4,482	I had a GNX back in '87. Kept it for a few years and sold it for more than I paid for it new. Wish I still had it. Funny thing is I still have the GNX owner's manual. Couldn't find it when selling the car and just came across it recently. Now I just need to find someone with a GNX that needs the manual. Pretty cool manual, talks about the ceramic turbo impeller, ladder bar suspension, chassis bracing... That car was bad ass.