Finally a nice mid size car with a diesel.

[rez333]

LOL!!!! I found out why my pictures above look so different, it's because the ones that I think look "hot" are actually different cars!! If you look at the front carefully, you can see the chrome accent piece is different.

The so-called hot version is a concept 6, and the ugly ones are the actual production cars. Talk about stupid - I don't know why they had to uglify the production car.

[rez333]

Originally Posted by Stew

Guys, it is a family sedan, you can't go too crazy with the design or it won't sell, the general public likes boring haha.

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BS. Look at my comparison pics above. The concept Mazda 6 looks hot, whereas the production 6 looks boring. Why on earth would anyone make such a design decision? I cannot fathom why they couldn't have released the concept Mazda6 - can you?

To the uninitiated, here are the differences: the concept's nose is longer, and the rear is shorter (therefore it looks sportier). The production car has it reversed: the rear is longer and the front is shorter - looks horrible IMO.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by rez333

BS. Look at my comparison pics above. The concept Mazda 6 looks hot, whereas the production 6 looks boring. Why on earth would anyone make such a design decision? I cannot fathom why they couldn't have released the concept Mazda6 - can you?

To the uninitiated, here are the differences: the concept's nose is longer, and the rear is shorter (therefore it looks sportier). The production car has it reversed: the rear is longer and the front is shorter - looks horrible IMO.

Has there been a production car in the last 20 years that looks as good as the concept? Nope. Even the Camaro and Challenger, as good as they still look, do not look as good as the concept versions. Because of country specific safety standards and need for competitive room, etc in a car, proportions always change compared to a true concept.

If you look at the 2 cars the differences all amount to things changed for safety and price. Bumpers, lights, ride height, etc.

[rez333]

Originally Posted by Stew

Has there been a production car in the last 20 years that looks as good as the concept? Nope. Even the Camaro and Challenger, as good as they still look, do not look as good as the concept versions. Because of country specific safety standards and need for competitive room, etc in a car, proportions always change compared to a true concept.

If you look at the 2 cars the differences all amount to things changed for safety and price. Bumpers, lights, ride height, etc.

No, the changes amount to having greater trunk space. Shoot me in the head right now.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by rez333

No, the changes amount to having greater trunk space. Shoot me in the head right now.

It is a family sedan above all else, so that is important.

[rez333]

The more I stare at it, I'm not certain that the production model has all that much more trunk space if at all. It's just designed to look uglier. Jackasses. Why do family sedans have to look boring - that's a BS paradigm based on no business value.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by rez333

The more I stare at it, I'm not certain that the production model has all that much more trunk space if at all. It's just designed to look uglier. Jackasses. Why do family sedans have to look boring - that's a BS paradigm based on no business value.

Camryitis, the number 1 illness for midsize sedan buyers. People buy Camrys in droves and i you look at the rest of the best sellers, they are equally as boring. the new FUsion is a step-up in design, but the proof will be in the pudding so to speak if it sells well.

[upflying]

Here is confirmation family cars are meant to be boring.

[rez333]

Classic!!!

[AdamZ]

Originally Posted by DaBears

My guess would be around that as well. Did you see the torque? Easily do a burnout lol

Oh god yes lol. I saw the hp and said "well alright" then saw the torque and thought "wtf" lol

Originally Posted by DGthe3

If the Jetta & Passat are hitting low 40's (highway), what makes you guys think this will do 20% better?

Uneducated guess