my rant @ GM designers.. - Page 2

CamaroSkooter · 09-19-2012, 02:27 PM

You just have to laugh at the absurdity of it and move on. Yeah, it's goofy and sometimes downright moronic the way some things are designed, but if your blood pressure only ever rises because of something that insignificant, then I'd say you're leading a pretty awesome life. Am I right?

JoansDriver · 09-19-2012, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by demonik

I always think its done intentionally to where we, as DIYers, can still have access but the average joe who is too scared will consider just taking it to the dealership to be replaced. Be it fear of warranty or breaking something else, I agree there has to be better designs.

The better design is the light bulb that never has to be changed.

Mr. iNCREDIBLE · 09-19-2012, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroSkooter

You just have to laugh at the absurdity of it and move on. Yeah, it's goofy and sometimes downright moronic the way some things are designed, but if your blood pressure only ever rises because of something that insignificant, then I'd say you're leading a pretty awesome life. Am I right?

true that.. I said my piece and my peace.. I'm over it.. until the next time..

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Originally Posted by JoansDriver

The better design is the light bulb that never has to be changed.

^^^ THIS

why the Camaro doesn't have LED from the factory is beyond me.. GM can do it, just look at all the Cadillacs..

strych9 · 09-19-2012, 02:47 PM

All of the design has manufacturing process in mind, with little concern for serviceability. They wanna slap these cars together as fast as they can, with as little cost as possible. If some process will save $.02, even at the risk of creating difficult service later on, they will opt to save the $.02. It's 100% about profit.

AntiPriuSS · 09-19-2012, 02:50 PM

I ended up dropping the bumper to do my install. I couldnt get the out side nuts back on the stud other wise.

PQ · 09-19-2012, 02:51 PM

I'd ask if they have ever heard of a phillips screw head.

strych9 · 09-19-2012, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PQ

I'd ask if they have ever heard of a phillips screw head.

Too easy. Make it a security torx screw.

sprtplt · 09-19-2012, 03:21 PM

The interior fasteners are even worse. Everything is pushed together with some sort of one-time use fragile plastic bit.

Jameg1011 · 09-19-2012, 04:22 PM

They want you to have to bring it in to be serviced so they make more money. Thats why alot of the stuff now a days is harder to DIY.

Mr. iNCREDIBLE · 09-19-2012, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jameg1011

They want you to have to bring it in to be serviced so they make more money. Thats why alot of the stuff now a days is harder to DIY.

no harder today than 25 years ago. same idiocy in design back then..

ever try to change the side markers on a '71 Mustang, or a '69 Vette, or a '78 Trans Am..

same idiocy, different era.

Neoclasiccl · 09-19-2012, 04:47 PM

I remember the old pontiac fiero's my frend had a starter go on his and it was an 8 hour job to replace

Mr. iNCREDIBLE · 09-19-2012, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Neoclasiccl

I remember the old pontiac fiero's my frend had a starter go on his and it was an 8 hour job to replace

now I hard a Girlfriend back in high school that had a 1971 Mustang, her starter went out on the highway.. engaged itself.. and poof..

changed that puppy on the side of the road in 20 minutes without a jack.

of course that was back when I weighed 125 pounds soaking wet and could actually slide under a car..

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Scalded Dog · 09-19-2012, 04:51 PM

Yeah... not EVERYTHING fits nicely. While the headlights on my '02 Silverado are so easy to change that I do them just for fun on weekends, the heater core is a different story. Requires removal and seperation of every single part on the entire vehicle except for the filaments in one of the taillights, and the manual even says that the heater core job will be easier if you just go ahead and remove that filament, too.

Neoclasiccl · 09-19-2012, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. iNCREDIBLE

now I hard a Girlfriend back in high school that had a 1971 Mustang, her starter went out on the highway.. engaged itself.. and poof..

changed that puppy on the side of the road in 20 minutes without a jack.

of course that was back when I weighed 125 pounds soaking wet and could actually slide under a car..

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I had a 79 mustang with a 4 cyl and you could almost stand in the engine bay and work on it LOL.

09-19-2012, 02:27 PM	#15
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strych9 I'll be back... Drives: Subaru, HD Road Glide Special Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 3,036 View My Garage	All of the design has manufacturing process in mind, with little concern for serviceability. They wanna slap these cars together as fast as they can, with as little cost as possible. If some process will save $.02, even at the risk of creating difficult service later on, they will opt to save the $.02. It's 100% about profit. __________________ Bye bye, Bumblebee! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Build Journal My Garage GoPro Mic Hack

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PQ Booooosted. Drives: 2010 Supercharged SS Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 36,717 View My Garage	I'd ask if they have ever heard of a phillips screw head. __________________

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AntiPriuSS Drives: Black 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Flordia Space Coast Posts: 158 View My Garage	I ended up dropping the bumper to do my install. I couldnt get the out side nuts back on the stud other wise.

09-19-2012, 03:21 PM	#22
sprtplt Drives: Corvette Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: South Carolina Posts: 322	The interior fasteners are even worse. Everything is pushed together with some sort of one-time use fragile plastic bit.

09-19-2012, 04:22 PM	#23
Jameg1011 Drives: 2012 2LT 45th anniversary Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New Jersey Posts: 754	They want you to have to bring it in to be serviced so they make more money. Thats why alot of the stuff now a days is harder to DIY.

09-19-2012, 04:47 PM	#25
Neoclasiccl Drives: 2012 Camaro SS L99 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Jacksonville Fl Posts: 232	I remember the old pontiac fiero's my frend had a starter go on his and it was an 8 hour job to replace

09-19-2012, 04:51 PM	#27
Scalded Dog Drives: 2011 1LT Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Crestline, CA Posts: 3,029	Yeah... not EVERYTHING fits nicely. While the headlights on my '02 Silverado are so easy to change that I do them just for fun on weekends, the heater core is a different story. Requires removal and seperation of every single part on the entire vehicle except for the filaments in one of the taillights, and the manual even says that the heater core job will be easier if you just go ahead and remove that filament, too.