Is It Really Necessary?

[Rogue Leader]

I always wondered about that as well. I see ads for new cars and it reads like:

".....p/s, p/b, p/w, p/l......."

Its like unless you're buying a Lotus Elise, essentially every car has that stuff, especially power steering and brakes! Theres only a couple cars on the market today available without power windows or locks, and when the heck was the last time a car didn't have power brakes?

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by The_Blur

It didn't make sense to join the Navy with the LS, so I got out of it when I could make the most of it. Now, I'm driving a Grand Am GT until I can get into something that burns more rubber.

Don't you be dissin' the Grand dAmage

It has 3.4L of Ram Air fury under the hood!

[SPARTAN sui]

I was dealing with I'm guessing a new salesperson, when I started shopping for Camaro's. I'm guessing he was new, considering he didn't know what trim came with the V8 on the Camaro. Okay, you're a salesperson at the only Chevrolet dealership in the town, and you don't even know the difference between an LT or an SS? You couldn't even take an educated guess which has the large engin (*cough* super sport *cough*)e? Not only that, he was giving me a wholesale price for my car, he literally went on KBB, I told him the information, he checked all the boxes considering my old car had ALL the options, then he gives me the wholesale price because it has a cracked windshield. ($250 windshield) Not even taking into consideration there is absolutely nothing else wrong with my car and is probably sitting cleaner than most of the cars on the lot. Needless to say I took my business elsewhere. Maybe to the average Joe Shmo they don't care if their salesperson or dealership knows anything, but I sure care. Educate your staff or you will lose a sale.

I don't even consider myself a car guy, but I think I know more about Chevy's than he does!

Sorry to get a bit off topic. I completely agree, I think it's pretty pointless to ramble off all those features that come standard on almost every vehicle, I think it's just a copy & paste deal. Easier to do that than actually put some thought into it.

[fielderLS3]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Don't you be dissin' the Grand dAmage

It has 3.4L of Ram Air fury under the hood!

I wish my Olds had the "ram air." I could use the extra 5 hp.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by fielderLS3

I wish my Olds had the "ram air." I could use the extra 5 hp.

aaaaaaand 10 ft-lbs more torque

[TOMS1SS]

This seems silly, but probably represents how most automakers and dealers think of customers:

http://testdrivejunkie.com/1987-pont...otional-video/

[Blue Menace]

This is my new favorite thread.

[fielderLS3]

Originally Posted by TOMS1SS

This seems silly, but probably represents how most automakers and dealers think of customers:

http://testdrivejunkie.com/1987-pont...otional-video/

I only made it to 53 seconds. Does the rest of the 11 minutes just keep going on the same way?

[SPARTAN sui]

Yes, yes it does. It's so painful to watch.