Psychological Diagnosis - Page 2

zebra · 03-23-2009, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

I have Greg Norris syndrome. it causes me to falcon punch random people when they perform idotic acts.

i wish that was contagious!

PQ · 03-24-2009, 02:09 AM

I'm inclined to agree with Blur.

Is laziness a mental disorder? Is anger? Is shyness? How about love? The problem is a diagnosis is left up to the Professional. It is abused in probably more instances that it is useful. The fact is, a murderer, pedafile or rapeist is not normal in the head. And we prosecute these people accordingly. And so we should. But our phycological professionals are largely trying to narrow the gap between some of emotions I first listed and the crimes I listed. And to what end? For a monetary reason ultimately I'm sure.

How does that effect the rest of us?

This is just one example of the inexact science of phsycology. It has it's place but in a world where a murderer gets off with some counseling while a video game producer gets sued for causing the person to murder, it plays a little thin on my phsyce. I know that sounds a little synycal and excuse the tongue and cheek referance but I've felt more personal accountability and less blame it on everyone else but me, would be better for all of us. And we have the abuses of phycology to blame. I've never seen anyone go to a chyropractor just once. They'll, just about without exeption, find you need 'adjustments' and I suppose not a lot of phyciatrists will tell many people to quit crying and deal with a problem like everyone else.

Sure there are peope who may need help but I don't beleive a fraction of the number in therapy now, do. Just my opinion. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong but If I had to bet on it I would.

dbotsfordtat · 03-24-2009, 10:51 AM

I'm no expert but for the sake of argument I think your confusing Moral short comings with Mental Illness. Murderers, Rapist, and no good lazy bastards are not necessarily mentally ill. From a strictly evolutionary point of view, rape, murder, theft, ect...however morally repugnant, could be beneficial to passing on one's Genes and not necessarily a mental illness. Psychiatry on the other hand, is a medical specialty. These people go to Medical School and then on to Psychiatry. When they say mental illness is real, I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Any Doctor could milk a person for monetary gain, and it probably happens all the time, but I don't think its a good idea to ignore chest pains because your doctor might send you out for unnecessary tests. IMO, If someone is suffering from depression, mood swings, hearing voices or whatever, I would classify that as a medical problem and urge you to seek the help of a trained medical professional.

PQ · 03-24-2009, 11:31 AM

You're right. But what I'm saying is that more and more, the Proffesional counselor is confusing moral shortcomings with mental illness. Remember, I said phychology and the proffesion has it's place. But in the case of the kid who shot and killed two people and basicaly escaped prison time due to the diagnosis of mental illness brought on by the video game manufacturer, it was just that. Confusing mental illness with simple crime and common sense. We are moving to a society where everything has to be blamed on something. Personal accountability has been reduced to an afterthought.

Not all phycology is useless. Some people need help and find it. But many more people hide behind it to mask their responsibility in the cloak of a victim.

*CamaroSpike23* · 03-24-2009, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Milk 1027

I've heard of people being idiotic but never idotic.

idotic is an extreme case of idiocy.

PQ · 03-24-2009, 11:43 AM

My dealer is an idot.

*CamaroSpike23* · 03-24-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by irpq11

My dealer is an idot.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 03-24-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Blur

If the healthy person's grades are low, then it must be ADD or something else that drugs can fix.

I have a serious problem with this one...two friends of mine supposedly have "ADD", or "ADHD"....and my brother was just 'diagnosed'. Two of them are on some stupid drug, and the other refused.

People....they're just bored!!!! All three of them can function as well as myself when they're interested in something. They can study, they can learn....sure, one of them takes longer to read....so? And the one without the medicine does arguably better than the other two!!!

Psychologissts, imo, make money by making up problems...by telling people they need help...or at the very least, making small problems into big ones.

hehehehe....lets see one of em psycho-analyze me!

PQ · 03-24-2009, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragoneye

I have a serious problem with this one...two friends of mine supposedly have "ADD", or "ADHD"....and my brother was just 'diagnosed'. Two of them are on some stupid drug, and the other refused.

People....they're just bored!!!! All three of them can function as well as myself when they're interested in something. They can study, they can learn....sure, one of them takes longer to read....so? And the one without the medicine does arguably better than the other two!!!

Psychologissts, imo, make money by making up problems...by telling people they need help...or at the very least, making small problems into big ones.

hehehehe....lets see one of em psycho-analyze me!

I think you suffer from an anti-authoritarian...........complex..................s yndrome.........ya. The lack of compliance that you show in the feild of scientific phsyclogical and behavioral evidence and control is quite apparent. Probably brought on by a major purchase anticipation situation and I also get the most accute sense of a babysitting condition in which you may be subject to the moderation of arguments, squablings and disrespect of a group of people that probably share the same infatuation and indulgance of a certain event that is in the near future which is exaserbated by the culmination of years of anguish over the disapearance of said subject.

In my proffesional opinion you should by a 2010 Camaro.

*radz28* · 03-24-2009, 04:07 PM

I have questions regarding this field. I've been told that I have a problem (apparently) but I just always figured I was just an indiscriminate, unsympathetic, and uncaring @$$h*le

Eh - what do I know

03-24-2009, 02:09 AM	#16
PQ Booooosted. Drives: 2010 Supercharged SS Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 36,717 View My Garage	I'm inclined to agree with Blur. Is laziness a mental disorder? Is anger? Is shyness? How about love? The problem is a diagnosis is left up to the Professional. It is abused in probably more instances that it is useful. The fact is, a murderer, pedafile or rapeist is not normal in the head. And we prosecute these people accordingly. And so we should. But our phycological professionals are largely trying to narrow the gap between some of emotions I first listed and the crimes I listed. And to what end? For a monetary reason ultimately I'm sure. How does that effect the rest of us? This is just one example of the inexact science of phsycology. It has it's place but in a world where a murderer gets off with some counseling while a video game producer gets sued for causing the person to murder, it plays a little thin on my phsyce. I know that sounds a little synycal and excuse the tongue and cheek referance but I've felt more personal accountability and less blame it on everyone else but me, would be better for all of us. And we have the abuses of phycology to blame. I've never seen anyone go to a chyropractor just once. They'll, just about without exeption, find you need 'adjustments' and I suppose not a lot of phyciatrists will tell many people to quit crying and deal with a problem like everyone else. Sure there are peope who may need help but I don't beleive a fraction of the number in therapy now, do. Just my opinion. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong but If I had to bet on it I would. __________________

03-24-2009, 11:31 AM	#18
PQ Booooosted. Drives: 2010 Supercharged SS Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 36,717 View My Garage	You're right. But what I'm saying is that more and more, the Proffesional counselor is confusing moral shortcomings with mental illness. Remember, I said phychology and the proffesion has it's place. But in the case of the kid who shot and killed two people and basicaly escaped prison time due to the diagnosis of mental illness brought on by the video game manufacturer, it was just that. Confusing mental illness with simple crime and common sense. We are moving to a society where everything has to be blamed on something. Personal accountability has been reduced to an afterthought. Not all phycology is useless. Some people need help and find it. But many more people hide behind it to mask their responsibility in the cloak of a victim. __________________

03-24-2009, 11:43 AM	#20
PQ Booooosted. Drives: 2010 Supercharged SS Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 36,717 View My Garage	My dealer is an idot. __________________

03-24-2009, 04:07 PM	#24
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03-24-2009, 10:51 AM	#17
dbotsfordtat Drives: 2016 Camaro Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Iowa Posts: 499	I'm no expert but for the sake of argument I think your confusing Moral short comings with Mental Illness. Murderers, Rapist, and no good lazy bastards are not necessarily mentally ill. From a strictly evolutionary point of view, rape, murder, theft, ect...however morally repugnant, could be beneficial to passing on one's Genes and not necessarily a mental illness. Psychiatry on the other hand, is a medical specialty. These people go to Medical School and then on to Psychiatry. When they say mental illness is real, I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Any Doctor could milk a person for monetary gain, and it probably happens all the time, but I don't think its a good idea to ignore chest pains because your doctor might send you out for unnecessary tests. IMO, If someone is suffering from depression, mood swings, hearing voices or whatever, I would classify that as a medical problem and urge you to seek the help of a trained medical professional.