CHEVY VOLT DENIED CALIFORNIA TAX CREDIT

[SS 376]

Originally Posted by rmnc3r

Another way to look at it is "not tax-payer subsidized"; one less reason for me to pay more in taxes so someone else can get a break. True environmentalist should pay full price for their folly, and not force unwilling tax payers to foot part of their bill.

Considering the state's finances, CA should just get rid of all tax credits for hybrids and what-not. But anyway, I drive a SS, so how CA treats the Volt doesn't concern me too much.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye;2499226[COLOR="Red"

]Only in California. They have no influence over the fed's $7500 credit.[/COLOR]

It seems I have a brand new reason to hate that state every month (no offense, California brothers!!)

I know it's only in California ,but it doesn't help that the biggest bunch of tree huggers in the country shot it down. Look for their crap to spread like the plague.

[WadeWilson]

Originally Posted by POWERFREAK

California FAIL

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Only in California. They have no influence over the fed's $7500 credit.

It seems I have a brand new reason to hate that state every month (no offense, California brothers!!)

None taken. I've lived here 5 years and tis place gets on my nerves too with their over the top emission standards.

[nester7929]

The state of California doing something that doesn't make sense? NO!!!

[Sax1031]

Bad decision in my eyes.

[fielderLS3]

Originally Posted by Revo1

Sounds like it's back to the drawing board for GM... That's a major selling point down the drain for this car.

Originally Posted by rmnc3r

Another way to look at it is "not tax-payer subsidized"; one less reason for me to pay more in taxes so someone else can get a break. True environmentalist should pay full price for their folly, and not force unwilling tax payers to foot part of their bill.

Adding irony to the insult, there are probably several hybrid SUVs that are much less fuel efficient than the Volt that do qualify, right?

Of course, that misses the more important point that governments shouldn't be subsidizing anything. Why should I have to subsidize the novelties of environmentalists, which I myself could not afford, and whom have a much higher income? If a product can succeed without subsidy, why should it be subsidized? If it can not succeed without subsidy, why should it be in production?

It is exactly this type of choosing of winners and losers by regulators that has given us the ethanol scourge, except now it's grown to include the entire car, not just the fuel.

[Synerbee]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Only in California. They have no influence over the fed's $7500 credit.

It seems I have a brand new reason to hate that state every month (no offense, California brothers!!)

We hate all the taxes, and stupid laws we have.

[v6sonoma]

The problem is really about the laws that were created before certain technologies existed and when applied to these newer technologies they don't work. They will make changes(on both ends) as time goes on. It' still very uncharted waters.

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by motorhead

VOLT DENIED CALIFORNIA TAX CREDIT
In an astonishing development, the California Air Resources Board is rating the emissions of the Chevrolet Volt several levels below other cars. For example, it’s rated worse than a Volkswagen Jetta TDI or a Toyota Prius, and the same as a Honda Civic. There are two problems here. In testing the Volt with the engine running it emits a fraction of a gram over the limit for hydrocarbons. This, despite the fact that all Volt owners will be trying to run their cars in electric mode as much as possible, meaning those engines will not come on very often. The other problem is that the California Air Resources Board has set a 10-year 150,000-mile warranty for the battery pack in hybrids. But the battery pack in the Volt only comes with an eight-year 100,000-mile warranty. That’s the same warranty that Nissan offers with the LEAF. But because the LEAF only has batteries it does not have to meet the more stringent warranty. As a result, the Chevy Volt does not qualify for a $3000 tax credit from the state of California. GM says it will qualify for the cleanest emissions level, but it will take several years to get there because it first wanted to qualify as an ultra low emissions vehicle in all 50 states, rather than just concentrating on meeting California’s standard. To me this is crazy. It’s an example of overly complex regulations that stifle innovation and creativity, and limit consumer choice due to mere technicalities.

This was from Autoline Dailey.

I don't know what they are smoking out there ,but I think they all must be crazy.

Will Prop 23 "fix" this kind of thing?

[GTAHVIT]

Originally Posted by fielderLS3

Adding irony to the insult, there are probably several hybrid SUVs that are much less fuel efficient than the Volt that do qualify, right?

Of course, that misses the more important point that governments shouldn't be subsidizing anything. Why should I have to subsidize the novelties of environmentalists, which I myself could not afford, and whom have a much higher income? If a product can succeed without subsidy, why should it be subsidized? If it can not succeed without subsidy, why should it be in production?

It is exactly this type of choosing of winners and losers by regulators that has given us the ethanol scourge, except now it's grown to include the entire car, not just the fuel.

^ This

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

California politicians, CARB, clean air wackos and all the other radicals have ruined that state from financial standpoint.
When are people gonna wake up.

[KeepItGreasey]

Originally Posted by rmnc3r

Another way to look at it is "not tax-payer subsidized"; one less reason for me to pay more in taxes so someone else can get a break. True environmentalist should pay full price for their folly, and not force unwilling tax payers to foot part of their bill.

you know???

but for me... pay EXTRA to SAVE gas? - NO THANK YOU!

my next vehicle will be a 4x4 Silverado (and yes, i live in the concrete jungle)

[rayhawk]

Still patiently waiting for that earthquake to finally break california off the US. Any day now...

[derklug]

Originally Posted by rayhawk

Still patiently waiting for that earthquake to finally break california off the US. Any day now...

Mother Nature is still filling out the Enviromental Impact Statement.