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Old 12-18-2008, 10:55 AM   #15
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Wow. Are you underestimating the twisty-ability of the Camaro?
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Old 12-18-2008, 11:11 AM   #16
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Wow. Are you underestimating the twisty-ability of the Camaro?
No, but I'll reserve judgment until we have some official numbers .. until then, I have to put it at the bottom I honestly hope it can handle the turns as good as my 135i can ....

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Old 12-18-2008, 11:12 AM   #17
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Fair enough.
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Old 12-18-2008, 12:25 PM   #18
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No, but I'll reserve judgment until we have some official numbers .. until then, I have to put it at the bottom I honestly hope it can handle the turns as good as my 135i can ....

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you think its going to go round corners faster than the more powerfull/lighter/and more advanced (manual revMatch-downshift) 370z?

hmm.
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Old 12-20-2008, 10:20 AM   #19
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interesting to read through those threads. I see they are linked to each other. Anyone want to add us to the discussion?
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Old 12-20-2008, 01:02 PM   #20
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you think its going to go round corners faster than the more powerfull/lighter/and more advanced (manual revMatch-downshift) 370z?

hmm.
More powerfull? I didn't think the 370z had more than the 422hp that the camaro had ... am I missing something?

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Old 12-20-2008, 04:40 PM   #21
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More powerfull? I didn't think the 370z had more than the 422hp that the camaro had ... am I missing something?

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i was reffering to your 135i.
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Old 12-20-2008, 04:49 PM   #22
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I don't understand the discussion?
The Nissan is a Japanese car - no American should ever consider buying one.
The BMW is a German car - no American should ever consider buying one.
The Camaro is made by an American car manufacturer. The only valid choice of the three.
So how blissfull is ignorance?
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i was reffering to your 135i.
Gotcha .. you quoted me talking about the camaro

Anyway ... I believe the 135i surprises a lot of folks .. it handles really well ... Power is debatable as your talking NA vs FI .. a lot more low end on the 135i and it is surely underrated as most folks are dynoing closer to 280 - 290 to the wheels which is a bit more than 300 crank .. Anyways .. i think it would be a great race ...

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Gotcha .. you quoted me talking about the camaro

Anyway ... I believe the 135i surprises a lot of folks .. it handles really well ... Power is debatable as your talking NA vs FI .. a lot more low end on the 135i and it is surely underrated as most folks are dynoing closer to 280 - 290 to the wheels which is a bit more than 300 crank .. Anyways .. i think it would be a great race ...

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yea thats my bad


the 135i is definately a sleeper, and i agree it will suprise alot of people, AND ill say it might be the best COMBINATION of speed/handling in this 3 car comparison... however id give speed to Camaro, and Handling to 370.

What are the skidpad/slalom times for the 135i?
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Ok the camaro better had a good dam reason for taking so ''f'' ing long and release some track data or have the car available to other performance testing companies. that said either the camaro has someting up its sleeves for killing the competition or it has its head in hole. every one else has released their '' f '' ing cars to be tested.
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Old 12-20-2008, 10:39 PM   #26
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Upset-much?
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Ok the camaro better had a good dam reason for taking so ''f'' ing long and release some track data or have the car available to other performance testing companies. that said either the camaro has someting up its sleeves for killing the competition or it has its head in hole. every one else has released their '' f '' ing cars to be tested.
As... differently as i would have put it, i agree 100%.


You want to build hype about a car, you go show it off.... Not hope people are going to ignore all the OTHER cars and wait anxiously for your reveal..


look what the GTR did. Went out and blew everyone's doors off. (with racing slicks and ringer parts...) BUT it got EVERYONE talking about it. Nissan didnt build hype for the car by NOT letting it be tested.
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Old 12-31-2008, 08:50 PM   #28
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I don't understand the discussion?
The Nissan is a Japanese car - no American should ever consider buying one.
The BMW is a German car - no American should ever consider buying one.
The Camaro is made by an American car manufacturer. The only valid choice of the three.


According to your logic, U.S. should stop importing all foreign cars because like you said, No American should ever consider buying foreign cars right?

Just for fun, Lets think about your logic little bit deeper...

What if countries of Asia and Europe decided to implement your logic, and they decided to never buy foreign cars.

Asian cars only stay in Asia, American cars only stays in U.S., and Europe cars only stays in Europe.


Countless American cars, SUVs, and Trucks that are being exported to the world will be stopped because according to your logic, its wrong for a citizen of certain country to purchase foreign made cars!!

What do you think will happen to the world car industry? Do you think U.S. will benefit from your logic?

Like someone previously said, "Ignorance is a bliss"
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