Dodge reveals Hellcat Charger

[tones2SS]

Originally Posted by King T

Hellcat Charger @ Woodward Dream Cruise

What a line-up!
NASTY!

[Q'smuscle]

Originally Posted by shaffe

Goes fast in straight line, cant turn for shit, CTS-V will be better no matter what.

I think that covers the jist of it.

Oh yeah and Charger looks ugly

lol

these are ugly! I like the 06-10 muscle looking chargers. though!

Originally Posted by SEVEN-OH JOE

Look familiar?

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Hahaha .....

Originally Posted by motorhead

I would take a fast ugly car over a pretty slow car any day. I would stick with Hellcat Charger over SS and certainly the SHO if those were my only choices. Although I also believe the charger looks much better than both too. Win win for me.

Sorry! I disagree my friend! Because it depends what you consider slow!

Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

I really liked the original 1999 concept. The rear quarter had the beloved 68-70 shape. It lost something going into production IMO.

Yikes! That front is worse than the 15 front!

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by Q'smuscle

Sorry! I disagree my friend! Because it depends what you consider slow!

I guess what I meant was slower than. SS and SHO are seconds lower then Helltiger charger.

Thanks for calling me friend though. I appreciate that.

[SEVEN-OH JOE]

As they say in legal circles, "Without Prejuduce"

In case you needed just ONE more reason to rush right down to the Dodge dealer, here it is!

Oh wait...

5 Car Brands That Customers Don't Buy Twice

#2. Chrysler: 22.72% repeat customers
Like Dodge, Chrysler sales are strong, but it has even fewer repeat buyers. Our hunch is that both Chrysler and Dodge are experiencing something of a brand crisis. To many shoppers, they're just too similar to feel distinct, leading to fuzzy identities for both. (Remember: Chrysler was the only U.S. automaker to add brands to its family during the Great Recession. Ford and GM both scaled back, letting their strongest brands shine.) Also, there's not a great deal of variety in the Chrysler lineup. Together, that vague brand identity and lack of product variation make it much easier for competitors to lure Chrysler owners into their showrooms.

I'll be the Hellcats move them right up to 23%!

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by SEVEN-OH JOE

As they say in legal circles, "Without Prejuduce"

In case you needed just ONE more reason to rush right down to the Dodge dealer, here it is!

Oh wait...

5 Car Brands That Customers Don't Buy Twice

#2. Chrysler: 22.72% repeat customers
Like Dodge, Chrysler sales are strong, but it has even fewer repeat buyers. Our hunch is that both Chrysler and Dodge are experiencing something of a brand crisis. To many shoppers, they're just too similar to feel distinct, leading to fuzzy identities for both. (Remember: Chrysler was the only U.S. automaker to add brands to its family during the Great Recession. Ford and GM both scaled back, letting their strongest brands shine.) Also, there's not a great deal of variety in the Chrysler lineup. Together, that vague brand identity and lack of product variation make it much easier for competitors to lure Chrysler owners into their showrooms.

I'll be the Hellcats move them right up to 23%!

That's because they last so long that they don't need to keep buying new ones.

I love posts like yours. It just keeps proving my point.

[SEVEN-OH JOE]

Originally Posted by motorhead

That's because they last so long that they don't need to keep buying new ones.

OK, then. Here's the whole list, just for you:

5 Car Brands That Customers Don't Buy Twice

#5. Scion: 25.79% repeat customers
Scion is facing a number of serious problems. When the brand debuted a decade ago, America had begun to "rediscover" small cars, which hadn't consistently performed well since the oil crisis of the 1970s. Scion did fine for a while, drawing in Millennials who liked the brand's personality, and even older drivers who appreciated some models' fuel economy (especially during the Great Recession). But apart from the FR-S, Scion hasn't offered anything new or noteworthy for some time. Its vehicles also perform poorly in initial quality and below average in dependability. Meanwhile, its parent, Toyota, continues to inspire huge volumes of repeat business and to offer some very interesting new rides (e.g. the recent expansion of the Prius family), which could be putting a dent in Scion's sales.
#4. Jaguar: 25.45% repeat customers
Unlike Scion, Jaguar doesn't have a problem with vehicle quality. In fact, it ranked second on J.D. Power's most recent Initial Quality Study, and it squeaked in just above the industry average in terms of long-term reliability. Rather, Jaguar's problem is its price point, which is higher than its competitors. Add that to the hugely competitive luxury market, and you can see why other high-end automakers are turning the heads of Jaguar owners.
#3. Dodge: 22.88% repeat customers
Dodge is selling well these days, but fewer than one-quarter of buyers are repeat customers. That could be because of the brand's shortcomings on the quality front: Dodge performs below average in initial quality and in the next-to-last spot in terms of dependability, besting bottom-runger MINI by just four points. (This rating EXCLUDES RAM PICKUPS which score much higher/better)
#2. Chrysler: 22.72% repeat customers
Like Dodge, Chrysler sales are strong, but it has even fewer repeat buyers. Our hunch is that both Chrysler and Dodge are experiencing something of a brand crisis. To many shoppers, they're just too similar to feel distinct, leading to fuzzy identities for both. (Remember: Chrysler was the only U.S. automaker to add brands to its family during the Great Recession. Ford and GM both scaled back, letting their strongest brands shine.) Also, there's not a great deal of variety in the Chrysler lineup. Together, that vague brand identity and lack of product variation make it much easier for competitors to lure Chrysler owners into their showrooms.
#1. Mitsubishi: 21.77% repeat customers
Mitsubishi is a small brand: as of July 31, the company had sold just 46,021 vehicles in the U.S., which is fewer than some luxury automakers. That's in part because Mitsubishi doesn't have the same deep pockets as many of its competitors, so it can't advertise its products as widely. It's also due to Mitsubishi's limited product lineup, which tends to include mostly compact cars and crossovers, without much variation. And Mitsubishi's dealer network doesn't help matters, because it's so much smaller and more dispersed than those of other marques. To add insult to injury, Mitsubishi models perform poorly in both initial quality and long-term dependability. It's really no reason that the company has so little brand loyalty.

Mitsu (a close ally of Chrysler in the past-taught them FWD) - Chrysler - Dodge

Clean sweep for WIN/PLACE/SHOW! Well-done!

Source: http://www.thecarconnection.com/news...dont-buy-twice

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by SEVEN-OH JOE

OK, then. Here's the whole list, just for you:

5 Car Brands That Customers Don't Buy Twice

#5. Scion: 25.79% repeat customers
Scion is facing a number of serious problems. When the brand debuted a decade ago, America had begun to "rediscover" small cars, which hadn't consistently performed well since the oil crisis of the 1970s. Scion did fine for a while, drawing in Millennials who liked the brand's personality, and even older drivers who appreciated some models' fuel economy (especially during the Great Recession). But apart from the FR-S, Scion hasn't offered anything new or noteworthy for some time. Its vehicles also perform poorly in initial quality and below average in dependability. Meanwhile, its parent, Toyota, continues to inspire huge volumes of repeat business and to offer some very interesting new rides (e.g. the recent expansion of the Prius family), which could be putting a dent in Scion's sales.
#4. Jaguar: 25.45% repeat customers
Unlike Scion, Jaguar doesn't have a problem with vehicle quality. In fact, it ranked second on J.D. Power's most recent Initial Quality Study, and it squeaked in just above the industry average in terms of long-term reliability. Rather, Jaguar's problem is its price point, which is higher than its competitors. Add that to the hugely competitive luxury market, and you can see why other high-end automakers are turning the heads of Jaguar owners.
#3. Dodge: 22.88% repeat customers
Dodge is selling well these days, but fewer than one-quarter of buyers are repeat customers. That could be because of the brand's shortcomings on the quality front: Dodge performs below average in initial quality and in the next-to-last spot in terms of dependability, besting bottom-runger MINI by just four points. (This rating EXCLUDES RAM PICKUPS which score much higher/better)
#2. Chrysler: 22.72% repeat customers
Like Dodge, Chrysler sales are strong, but it has even fewer repeat buyers. Our hunch is that both Chrysler and Dodge are experiencing something of a brand crisis. To many shoppers, they're just too similar to feel distinct, leading to fuzzy identities for both. (Remember: Chrysler was the only U.S. automaker to add brands to its family during the Great Recession. Ford and GM both scaled back, letting their strongest brands shine.) Also, there's not a great deal of variety in the Chrysler lineup. Together, that vague brand identity and lack of product variation make it much easier for competitors to lure Chrysler owners into their showrooms.
#1. Mitsubishi: 21.77% repeat customers
Mitsubishi is a small brand: as of July 31, the company had sold just 46,021 vehicles in the U.S., which is fewer than some luxury automakers. That's in part because Mitsubishi doesn't have the same deep pockets as many of its competitors, so it can't advertise its products as widely. It's also due to Mitsubishi's limited product lineup, which tends to include mostly compact cars and crossovers, without much variation. And Mitsubishi's dealer network doesn't help matters, because it's so much smaller and more dispersed than those of other marques. To add insult to injury, Mitsubishi models perform poorly in both initial quality and long-term dependability. It's really no reason that the company has so little brand loyalty.

Mitsu (a close ally of Chrysler in the past-taught them FWD) - Chrysler - Dodge

Clean sweep for WIN/PLACE/SHOW! Well-done!

Source: http://www.thecarconnection.com/news...dont-buy-twice

Thanks! It continues to prove my point.

[SEVEN-OH JOE]

Originally Posted by motorhead

Thanks! It continues to prove my point.

Gotcha. I FULLY understand.

In case it rains, I got you this (watch out for lightning!):

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by SEVEN-OH JOE

Gotcha. I FULLY understand.

In case it rains, I got you this (watch out for lightning!):

Hey, where did you get the picture of me? Not fair.

[Hell Cat 1]

Originally Posted by motorhead

That's because they last so long that they don't need to keep buying new ones.

I love posts like yours. It just keeps proving my point.

Jeep GC sales were up 50% last quarter and challenger sales have risen faster than Camaro or mustang. I know Camaros have higher sales numbers so I am talking percentage wise. and mustangs too but dodge is selling cars like never before. I will not bad mouth what ever car you own or like. Its your and you should be proud of it. You should also respect the fact that the new dodge challenger hell cat will have a warranty even if its raced or tracked. The hell cat and the new hell cat charger are the bad asses on the block for now. The 2015 charger hell cat top speed is NHRA certified at 204 miles per hour and the challenger is 199 mph. Not bad for a pig with skinny tires. I hope Chevrolet ups the HP on the Camaro this is good for all of us. I race at the track to have fun not to make fun of others.

[SEVEN-OH JOE]

Originally Posted by motorhead

Hey, where did you get the picture of me? Not fair.

NSA

[SEVEN-OH JOE]

Originally Posted by Hell Cat 1

Jeep GC sales were up 50% last quarter and challenger sales have risen faster than Camaro or mustang.

(who have new-Gen cars in-process. And the FIAT-Lancia-Alfa-bred replacement for the Chally is where?)

JEEP is not included in those numbers. separate Division. Like RAM.

But the CAR Divisions? Dismal. So NOW you know the REAL REASON for the Hellcat, offered up in micro numbers, relatively.

"PLEASE, people, come to our showrooms! PLEASE!!"

Oh, BTW, the sacrificial lamb (ram?) in all this Mopar Mayhem? Yup, the on-life-support, pull-the-plug-any-day-now VIPER. Now outrun by a taxicab cousin.

Also BTW, HC1, welcome. You must have got tired of all that miss-information @ Challenger Talk. We'll straighten you out. No charge.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by Hell Cat 1

Jeep GC sales were up 50% last quarter and challenger sales have risen faster than Camaro or mustang. I know Camaros have higher sales numbers so I am talking percentage wise. and mustangs too but dodge is selling cars like never before. I will not bad mouth what ever car you own or like. Its your and you should be proud of it. You should also respect the fact that the new dodge challenger hell cat will have a warranty even if its raced or tracked. The hell cat and the new hell cat charger are the bad asses on the block for now. The 2015 charger hell cat top speed is NHRA certified at 204 miles per hour and the challenger is 199 mph. Not bad for a pig with skinny tires. I hope Chevrolet ups the HP on the Camaro this is good for all of us. I race at the track to have fun not to make fun of others.

Have you read any of my posts or even the one you quoted? I have yet to make fun of this awesome car. It's been quite the opposite. I'm probably the biggest Mopar fan that owns a ZL1 on this entire site.

[SEVEN-OH JOE]

Originally Posted by motorhead

I'm probably the biggest Mopar fan that owns a ZL1 on this entire site.

But we still LUV ya. Every family has a member who's a little misguided, from time to time.