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Old 03-25-2009, 07:01 PM   #211
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I see where you guys are going with this and that makes much more sense for gm... Making almost as much power with lower displacement and more effiency that's an optimal combo(save more power and equal effiency)
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Old 12-28-2009, 01:11 AM   #212
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Official 2011 Mustang GT info released

http://jalopnik.com/5434979/the-50-mustang-is-back

Cliff Notes:
412-hp/390 lb-ft tq
17/25 mpg
Max torque at 4000, redline at 7000
5.0 engine weighs 10 lbs. more than 4.6
Curb weight estimated at around 3600 (from edmunds, not in attached article)


There is no discussion of the 2011 Mustang GT without discussing the return to a five liter V8. The 5.0-liter, or 302 as it was known in the pre-liter era, has become irrevocably tied to the Mustang, when the 4.6-liter was introduced the Stang-faithful praised the increased output but moaned over the loss of their favored displacement. This time the fans get their five liters AND a whopping 412 HP and 390 lb-ft of torque.


The power comes courtesy of an all-new clean-sheet design which started in only 2007 and sliced 12 months off the normal engine development project without sacrificing any of Ford's durability and quality testing. What they've come up with is a laundry list of nifty goodies. Beginning at the block, the all aluminum unit is designed for light weight and high-power durability. The forged steel crank is factory counterbalanced and clamped to the block with cross-bolted four bolt mains which, if you aren't keen to that kind of thing, means a potential for huge power. The connecting rods are a forged powder metal design with floating pins retaining hypereutectic pistons, each with their own oil squirters to keep things lubed and cool. Those are important as this engine is a high-compression design and employs active knock supression so keeping the pistons cool to prevent predetonation is important.

The mandate for the 5.0 team was maximum breathing for this engine and it can be seen in the design of the heads. The initial thought was to strap heads from the Ford GT on the engine, but they didn't deliver the power targets so all-new aluminum heads were designed. The heads are designed with race-inspired vertical intake ports to improve flow.The four valve heads use a dual overhead cam pushing a simple roller-finger valvetrain with automatic hydraulic adjusters. Those cams on both the intake and exhaust sides are part of the good stuff on the engine though, featuring what Ford calls "Twin Independent Variable Cam Timing" or Ti-VCT, which to the rest of us not constrained by copyright laws call variable valve timing. The front of each cam shaft holds a mechanism which uses engine oil as an incompressible fluid to hold the cams, leaving the shifting duties to the inertia in the shafts.


The new 5.0 ditches the valley-mounted alternator in favor of a low-mounted long-runner intake for good low-end grunt. Maximum torque comes in at 4,000 RPM but the entire curve is nice and flat. This new engine pushes the redline for the Mustang V8 up to 7,000 RPM, with maximum horsepower arriving at 6500. The engine is paired with Ford's new 6-speed automatic and new the Ford/Getrag 6-speed manual, both shared with the V6 model.

Despite the new engine borrowing an old theme, the 5.0 is an engine designed for now and into the future. Though it's still a port-injection engine, it's projected to make 17 MPG city and 25 MPG highway, oil changes have been pushed up to an impressive 10,000 miles between changes using 5W20. It delivers a stout 83 HP/liter and does it while weighing only 10 lbs more than the outgoing 4.6-liter, tipping the scales at 430 lbs. The best part is, according to Ford engineers, this design is "protected for future applications," meaning the block and bottom end are overbuilt and we'll be seeing much more coming out of this new mill. That supercharged iron-block 5.4-liter in the GT500 is getting pretty old, and all the kids seem to like turbos these days. Just sayin'.

There are, of course, other improvements to the 2011 Mustang. The steering switches to Ford's Electronic Power Steering system. Like the V6 Mustang, the chassis on both the hardtop and convertible are stiffened with a combination of bracing and structural foam. There's a 14-inch Brembo brake option which requires new 19-inch wheels. The lower front fascia is tweaked for 2011, there are improved aero bits here and there, the gauge cluster gets a standard information center, there's a MyKey option, universal garage door opener and various other tchatchkies. None of these things will matter to the Mustang buyers who have been anxiously awaiting two little digits. 5 and 0.



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Old 12-28-2009, 01:29 AM   #213
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Old 12-28-2009, 01:47 AM   #214
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Employing 32-valves and Twin Independent Variable Camshaft Timing(Ti-VCT), the new 5.0 produces a mighty 412 horsepower and 390 pound-feet of torque (check out our Deep Dive for more details).

No word on performance figures, but expect a mid-four second 0-60 sprint and a quarter-mile in the high 12s.

At least. Especially as the current Mustang GT (315-hp, 320 lb-ft of torque) hits 60 mph in 4.9 seconds and runs the quarter in 13.5.

Oh, according to Ford, the new 5.0 weighs just ten pounds more than the outgoing GT. We like that last bit very much.


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Old 12-28-2009, 02:13 AM   #215
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The jalopnik article says the new engine weighs 10 lbs. more than the outgoing one, so it's probably a mistake on their part. Expect it to gain a bit more weight than that due to some new parts, but it shouldn't be more than 100 lbs.
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Old 12-28-2009, 02:19 AM   #216
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http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=.../0/IwvLEx10KgE

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=.../1/zlR8hbpkHkw

by the way this info was in the other thread, didnt want to make another since itll get merged anyway lol
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Old 12-28-2009, 02:22 AM   #217
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http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=.../0/IwvLEx10KgE

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by the way this info was in the other thread, didnt want to make another since itll get merged anyway lol




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Old 12-28-2009, 02:32 AM   #218
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I'm pretty certain they put the 5.0 emblem just as a super obvious distinguishing feature from the 2010s.
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Old 12-28-2009, 02:36 AM   #219
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Good lord!

That thing revved to 7,000 RPM!
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Old 12-28-2009, 02:38 AM   #220
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well ya thats the redline for it

thanks for the embed, im lazy lol
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Old 12-28-2009, 02:41 AM   #221
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thanks for the embed, im lazy lol
i just figured out how to do it, LOL.
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Old 12-28-2009, 02:41 AM   #222
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Good lord!

That thing revved to 7,000 RPM!
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I've taken mine up to 7,000 rpm's a few times, it's nothing new or exciting in the mod motor world.
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Old 12-28-2009, 02:43 AM   #223
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True..I guess I'm just used to the more low RPM power in other engines
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Old 12-28-2009, 03:35 AM   #224
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So... 2011 Mustang GT gained a few pounds

According to Ford's official spec sheet released today, the new 2011 gained a bit of weight. The manual transmission equipped car weighs in at 3,875lbs, while the auto box weighs in at 4,000lbs. Wonder if the primary weight gain was all in the new 6 speed transmissions?

Source: http://media.ford.com/images/10031/2...g_GT_Specs.pdf
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