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Old 02-03-2010, 03:08 PM   #211
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No mention of Wozoniak complaining about his brakes. That's what made Toyota look into it. Wozniak thinks it's a software issue...
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Old 02-03-2010, 03:54 PM   #212
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Pretty bad if you can't even stop those little piece of craps.
A car going at 70 mph with minimal grip (hard, skinny tires reduce rolling resistance and improve economy) isn't going to have impressive braking stats to start with. Then if you have a computer bug that reduces braking ability ...

Anyway, lets recap:

The best selling midsize car of 2009 (Camry) has unintended acceleration problems
The best selling compact car of 2009 (Corolla) has unintended acceleration problems
The best selling hybrid of all time (Prius) appears to have unintended acceleration problems
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Old 02-03-2010, 04:11 PM   #213
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No mention of Wozoniak complaining about his brakes. That's what made Toyota look into it. Wozniak thinks it's a software issue...

computer controlled brakes... computer controlled throttle.....



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A car going at 70 mph with minimal grip (hard, skinny tires reduce rolling resistance and improve economy) isn't going to have impressive braking stats to start with. Then if you have a computer bug that reduces braking ability ...

Anyway, lets recap:

The best selling midsize car of 2009 (Camry) has unintended acceleration problems
The best selling compact car of 2009 (Corolla) has unintended acceleration problems
The best selling hybrid of all time (Prius) appears to have unintended acceleration problems

its not a floor mat issue, its not just a gas pedal issue.... its a flaw in the programming.
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Old 02-03-2010, 04:51 PM   #214
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Yes even more failure!
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Old 02-03-2010, 08:49 PM   #215
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Wouldn't doubt it. I just came out of my history class today and I noticed something... Everyone downs whatever anything American does.
It makes me want to choke a kitten.
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Old 02-03-2010, 08:55 PM   #216
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They are taking that "moving forward" motto to damn serious.
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Old 02-03-2010, 08:57 PM   #217
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They are taking that "moving forward" motto to damn serious.
There's no stopping Toyota, literally!
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Old 02-03-2010, 09:02 PM   #218
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They're gonna focus on Hyundai/Kia next.
My fiancée's car is a Kia. One of my ex-girlfriends drove a Hyundai. These are not great cars, but I'm sure Fox will spin it as the way of the future.
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Old 02-03-2010, 10:15 PM   #219
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WOW!!! It just keeps coming and that does not count all another issues Toyota has keep under the General Public's Radar.

If I remember correcting one of the lows from a Mag or Motor Week was poor brake feel or soft brake feel. Something along those lines. However, that has been said about of other cars before and there were not any issue later down the road.

Maybe, just Maybe all this can punch through Toyota's brain washing reinforce by the Media.
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Old 02-03-2010, 11:00 PM   #220
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My Sister has a KIA and its been a good car so far.

Did ya know they started out making bicycles?
I saw the commercial too ...
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Old 02-03-2010, 11:04 PM   #222
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I saw the commercial too ...
I have trouble watching their commercial about the Forte...(I think that was it)

"We didn't invent this"
"We didn't do this"
"We weren't the first to do this"
"Nor have we mastered this"
"But we can build this car with everything in it."

So..."We don't know wtf we're doing, but we can put other peoples' ideas into our cars and sell it to you."

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I have trouble watching their commercial about the Forte...(I think that was it)

"We didn't invent this"
"We didn't do this"
"We weren't the first to do this"
"Nor have we mastered this"
"But we can build this car with everything in it."

So..."We don't know wtf we're doing, but we can put other peoples' ideas into our cars and sell it to you."

Prime example of copy-cat engineering. Though the Chinese put the Koreans to shame at that.
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Old 02-03-2010, 11:20 PM   #224
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Prime example of copy-cat engineering. Though the Chinese put the Koreans to shame at that.
Well, I'm not accusing Kia of being terrible at it...but that commercial made me go "wtf"?
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