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Old 07-30-2015, 12:12 PM   #183
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I think the big take away here is that the GT350 (NON R) is as fast as a C7 Z51. Pretty crazy!
With the Track Pack which includes MRC and extra coolers.
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Old 07-30-2015, 12:13 PM   #184
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With the Track Pack which includes MRC and extra coolers.
Z51 includes coolers too and MRC is optional on the C7.
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Old 07-30-2015, 12:21 PM   #185
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Z51 includes coolers too and MRC is optional on the C7.
No I know.

I just didn't want it to seem like a base 350 was the match to a Z51 Stingray
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Old 07-30-2015, 12:59 PM   #186
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Plus another key strength to the Z51's track capabilities is the awesome e-diff!

http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/t...alkaround.html

"The centerpiece of the Stingray Z51, the component that does more to explain its elevated performance than any other single change, is hidden above the spring and surrounded by some beautiful component packaging. It's a new electronic limited-slip differential, but GM calls it an eLSD for short.

In reality it's an electronically controlled hydraulic wet multiplate clutch pack. It's able to run fully open (zero torque resistance), virtually locked (2,000 Newton-meters, a.k.a. 1,475 pound-feet of resistance) and any point in between. Though it's impossible to feel it working, the eLSD is making adjustments every 11 milliseconds based on feedback from the steering, suspension, ESC, powertrain management system and a new patented tire temperature sensing system.

And so the Corvette Z51 turns eagerly into the tightest autocross corners, hunting apexes as if on a search-and-destroy mission. The tail stays in line midcorner as we add throttle and it doesn't kick out on exit unless we get really stupid with the throttle with all the nannies turned off in Race mode. A lot of what we like about the C7 Z51 has to do with this eLSD.

Here's what the eLSD and the hydraulic pump look like out of the car. My yellow arrow is pointing out the multiplate wet clutch that regulates the tightness of the differential action. The continuously variable clamping force it generates is where the resistive torque between the left and right rear tires comes from.

That clamping force is produced by hydraulic pressure that's generated by the pump in the foreground and throttled by control valves that are managed by an ECU that sits in close proximity. This ECU does not act alone, though; it gets additional guidance from the main powertrain ECU and other subsystems."


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Old 07-30-2015, 01:01 PM   #187
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So, not to create a debate, but the article quoted above indicates these particular GT350R's were equipped with the electronics package (which adds heavier seats, navigation, air conditioning, etc.) and the cars weighed in at 3650lbs. That means a R without the package is going to be even lighter, likely in the high 3500lb range. Tell me again why so many are disappointed with the weight of this car? Not only that, even if the curb weight is marginally less than a PP GT, the difference in where the weight differs (i.e. unsprung weight) is enormous between the two!

I think the quoted weight is the base weight. The magazine did not weigh it and they didn't mention as tested. I would bet that is the advertised weight and options add to that. Highly unlikely that they shaved that much additional weight by adding CF to the front (meaning above the weight lost in the wheels) while adding track capable parts and additional coolers and MR.


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Old 07-30-2015, 02:23 PM   #188
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I think the quoted weight is the base weight. The magazine did not weigh it and they didn't mention as tested. I would bet that is the advertised weight and options add to that. Highly unlikely that they shaved that much additional weight by adding CF to the front (meaning above the weight lost in the wheels) while adding track capable parts and additional coolers and MR.


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I read it the same way. But I will wait till C&D weights it anyway. Either way it's still great power to weight.

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Old 07-30-2015, 04:53 PM   #189
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The GT350R weighs 3650 lbs.

Looks like thePill was wrong again with his 3520 lb GT350R. BIG SURPRISE

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/show...postcount=2916
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Old 08-05-2015, 07:24 PM   #190
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Looks like thePill was wrong again with his 3520 lb GT350R. BIG SURPRISE

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/show...postcount=2916
He also said the base GT would be harassing Corvette Stingrays.
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Old 08-06-2015, 07:02 PM   #191
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Looks like the whole over-rev thing that was posted was someone copying and pasted the manual supplement from the GT500.

http://www.manualslib.com/manual/573...0.html?page=24
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Old 08-07-2015, 10:20 AM   #192
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Wow that Shift line light that comes from both directions and meets in the middle bothers me.

Sounds like a good car, it'll be cool to see some out on track in the near future.
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Old 08-11-2015, 03:52 AM   #193
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Configurator is now live.....

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Old 08-11-2015, 07:17 AM   #194
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Old 08-11-2015, 09:34 AM   #195
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priced mine up, 55 grand for the GT350 with track pack.
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Old 08-11-2015, 10:04 AM   #196
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I'm waiting for my '15 to be shipped from Flat Rock plant to the dealer in DE... any day now I hope. And then I'll either have it transported or maybe just tow it down to FL myself. Optioned with: Track Package and Avalanche Gray with Painted Black Roof and Black/White over-the-top stripes. 1 of 4 of the 137 total 2015 models with those combined options.

It would look like these.. but the configurator has the wrong 'raised decklid spoiler' since it's incorrectly rendering the California Special style spoiler instead. The Track Pkg's raised spoiler looks like what's on the yellow one below.

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