The BEST Break for a new car. "very long" - Page 13

Darin Morgan · 10-02-2009, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DFollis

Darin,

Just wanted to get your opinion, if i had to guess i would say i have about 30 hard pulls on it with about 730 miles i have definitely noticed a differnece in the power but you say it will not reach its full potential till about 1500 miles? Also i still notice that the engine bogs down a lil bit from about 10mph roll is this still normal?

When do you recommend that i should change the oil and what type?

Thanks for your help!

I would bet your ready to change it now. I had that bog as well until I got a tune and took the torque management down to a reasonable level. A Fuse reset might helps as well.

wrek · 10-02-2009, 02:33 PM

Darin, I'm glad I read this before my 5 hour road trip drive home from the dealer tomorrow. You're saying, "Have FUN" to break in the engine.. and I plan on it

I have "a doctor's note" now so to speak.

DFollis · 10-02-2009, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darin Morgan

I would bet your ready to change it now. I had that bog as well until I got a tune and took the torque management down to a reasonable level. A Fuse reset might helps as well.

I have a 2SS M6 is the fuse reset still necessary with the Manuel?

Also what oil do you recommend?

Thanks!

Darin Morgan · 10-02-2009, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DFollis

I have a 2SS M6 is the fuse reset still necessary with the Manuel?

Also what oil do you recommend?

Thanks!

Most are saying the LS3 Manual trans cars are not responding as much to the fuse pull. I am sure this is on the " Fuse Pull" thread.

ClutchKargo · 10-03-2009, 12:51 AM

Darin,

Many thanks for the great info in this thread. I read all the way through this a few nights ago preparing for today.

My wife and I picked up our new baby today, and OMG is she beautiful, a 2SS/RS RJT and we're in love!

I dropped the wife off at her parents house because she didn't want to be part of the abuse, and then I went out to the closest interstate and dropped the hammer for about 20 miles on and off and I could really feel it coming alive.

The ride home was a little over 100 miles and tried to run it from 50 to 80 as much as I could.

Now I'm waitng for tomorrow morning to go out and throw down again.

This car is so much more than I ever expected.

Clutch

Legend17 · 10-03-2009, 06:28 AM

glad someone knew how to break them in the right way. dont get them use to performing like a granny drives it. tame that beast and make it perform like you want it to

Darin Morgan · 10-03-2009, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClutchKargo

Darin,

Many thanks for the great info in this thread. I read all the way through this a few nights ago preparing for today.

My wife and I picked up our new baby today, and OMG is she beautiful, a 2SS/RS RJT and we're in love!

I dropped the wife off at her parents house because she didn't want to be part of the abuse, and then I went out to the closest interstate and dropped the hammer for about 20 miles on and off and I could really feel it coming alive.

The ride home was a little over 100 miles and tried to run it from 50 to 80 as much as I could.

Now I'm waitng for tomorrow morning to go out and throw down again.

This car is so much more than I ever expected.

Clutch

Not only is this car much more than I ever expected, I am totally nuts over this thing. I can not believe how crazy I am about this car. I feel like I am 18 again. I can not believe how "right" Chevy got this car. I have not gone on and on about how totally obsessed I am with this car because it sounds sort of juvenile but I cant help it. I am so obsessed that we are now considering buying another one late next year. After the break in and your at about 1500+ miles there is one more thing you must do.

See next thread.

Darin Morgan · 10-03-2009, 11:57 AM

After you break it in correctly and have about 1500-1800miles on it Its time to turn up the wick and change the car into a REAL quick street car. After I got the CAI, headers and other things done on the car the increase in power was noticeable but not like a "Holy Crap this things bad ass" noticeable. It was more like a," Wow that really helped" noticeable. After you get all the "bolt on" MODs on the car your doing yourself a great disservice if you dont get a tune to make those MODs work to there maximum potential. After I got the first tune, It was like a whole new car. It changed the feel and sound of the car so profoundly that I still have not stopped smiling! I know that the tune voids the warranty but after experiencing how the tune completely and totally changed the feel, experience and the acceleration rate I would not even own the car if I could not do it. That's right. It changed the car so completely that if I had to buy another Camaro and was told that I could not tune it, I would not buy it. I would go get something else. Thats how profound it feels. All the street cars I have ever drove or experienced had nice firm or hard shifts and when you hit the throttle you had soothing to play with. The Stock Camaro with its HORRIBLE Torque management makes the car "soft". It shifts like transmission with the clutch packs half blown out of it. It shifts so soft and gives up so much power on the gear changes that it was actually pissing me off.

A Trans should not shift like that in a high performance car ever! I did a lot of logging with the HpTuners software and e-mailed it to Mike at New Era. He e-mailed me a baseline tune to play with. Nothing to aggressive just somthing that he knew would be safe and fun. I flashed the tune into the car at 4:00p that evening. I was not expecting to feel and experience how profoundly it changed my entire experience with this car and I could not quite driving it until way into the wee hours of the next morning. After laying into the first time after the tune I thought," WOW I finally have a quick street car!". Not blinding fast mind you,, just quick. Thats all I wanted. I didnt want to run high 11s or even low 12s but a nice 12.80 or 12.90 would be just fine. The car will do that now no problem. It Barks the tires on the gear changes now and when it shifts (even at part throttle) it kicks you in the ass.

After experiencing how profoundly a good tune can change this car, I now say SCREW THE WARRANTY!
I dont want it.

BlackM6RS/SS · 10-03-2009, 04:13 PM

I agree there is nothing worse for a auto than slow soft shifts wearing out the bands way quick. Reminds me of my Buick GN 200-4r with a Art Carr shift kit, nice positive shifts. Glad you got it tuned quick to avoid those weak stock shifts

ClutchKargo · 10-04-2009, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darin Morgan

After you break it in correctly and have about 1500-1800miles on it Its time to turn up the wick and change the car into a REAL quick street car. After I got the CAI, headers and other things done on the car the increase in power was noticeable but not like a "Holy Crap this things bad ass" noticeable. It was more like a," Wow that really helped" noticeable. After you get all the "bolt on" MODs on the car your doing yourself a great disservice if you dont get a tune to make those MODs work to there maximum potential. After I got the first tune, It was like a whole new car. It changed the feel and sound of the car so profoundly that I still have not stopped smiling! I know that the tune voids the warranty but after experiencing how the tune completely and totally changed the feel, experience and the acceleration rate I would not even own the car if I could not do it. That's right. It changed the car so completely that if I had to buy another Camaro and was told that I could not tune it, I would not buy it. I would go get something else. Thats how profound it feels. All the street cars I have ever drove or experienced had nice firm or hard shifts and when you hit the throttle you had soothing to play with. The Stock Camaro with its HORRIBLE Torque management makes the car "soft". It shifts like transmission with the clutch packs half blown out of it. It shifts so soft and gives up so much power on the gear changes that it was actually pissing me off.

A Trans should not shift like that in a high performance car ever! I did a lot of logging with the HpTuners software and e-mailed it to Mike at New Era. He e-mailed me a baseline tune to play with. Nothing to aggressive just somthing that he knew would be safe and fun. I flashed the tune into the car at 4:00p that evening. I was not expecting to feel and experience how profoundly it changed my entire experience with this car and I could not quite driving it until way into the wee hours of the next morning. After laying into the first time after the tune I thought," WOW I finally have a quick street car!". Not blinding fast mind you,, just quick. Thats all I wanted. I didnt want to run high 11s or even low 12s but a nice 12.80 or 12.90 would be just fine. The car will do that now no problem. It Barks the tires on the gear changes now and when it shifts (even at part throttle) it kicks you in the ass.

After experiencing how profoundly a good tune can change this car, I now say SCREW THE WARRANTY!
I dont want it.

I have always bolted on mods to my cars and enjoyed the excitement, but it really scares me to punt my warranty.

Question: So once you tune your car the dealer will see this because it is logged in the ECM and at that point the warranty is gone?

Susantroy1 · 10-06-2009, 03:57 PM

By Far one of the BEST THREADS on the forum

the 2LT RS is on the assembly line as I write this

This is going to be to cool

Thanks for the insight and expertise!!

rebelliondog206 · 10-06-2009, 05:16 PM

Darin,

I recently posted askng the question about whether tuning and bolt ons should be done, in your opinion, before or after the "break-in" period. Just above you state that "after" the break-in (1500-1800 miles)......"Its time to turn up the wick and change the car into a REAL quick street car." I have been collecting various aftermarket supplies in my garage (no car yet) and reading to see what others are doing and getting good results from.
I guess I am still wondering what is best (I actually asked you before).....break-in with factory equipment, then change the parts and tune.......or, slap on the good stuff, then run the hell out of it?
I am not planning to turn it into a 70,000 dollar vehicle, just looking for that little extra without having to get a part time evening job to pay for it. No time to drive then...

Mine is off the railcar as of yesterday...40 miles away.

Your thoughts?

chappy48 · 10-07-2009, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rebelliondog206

Darin,

I recently posted askng the question about whether tuning and bolt ons should be done, in your opinion, before or after the "break-in" period. Just above you state that "after" the break-in (1500-1800 miles)......"Its time to turn up the wick and change the car into a REAL quick street car." I have been collecting various aftermarket supplies in my garage (no car yet) and reading to see what others are doing and getting good results from.
I guess I am still wondering what is best (I actually asked you before).....break-in with factory equipment, then change the parts and tune.......or, slap on the good stuff, then run the hell out of it?
I am not planning to turn it into a 70,000 dollar vehicle, just looking for that little extra without having to get a part time evening job to pay for it. No time to drive then...

Mine is off the railcar as of yesterday...40 miles away.

Your thoughts?

I doubt it matters much. If I had to guess I'd say the aftermarket stuff will help the break in a little, but it's really not complicated. Just load the engine enough times and you'll be fine.

rebelliondog206 · 10-07-2009, 09:03 AM

With all the talk of the car "learning" during the first few miles of driving, I would guess then that it should 'learn' how it is supposed to breathe right away..... inhale (air intake) as well as exhale (the exhaust). Then tell it the way it is supposed to think and act (tune it), to release its inhibitions and to live to its potential. Makes sense to me.

Let the fun begin......

10-03-2009, 11:57 AM	#176
Darin Morgan Reher Morrison Racing Drives: Inferno Orange SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Arlington TEXAS Posts: 249	The last thing you must do. After you break it in correctly and have about 1500-1800miles on it Its time to turn up the wick and change the car into a REAL quick street car. After I got the CAI, headers and other things done on the car the increase in power was noticeable but not like a "Holy Crap this things bad ass" noticeable. It was more like a," Wow that really helped" noticeable. After you get all the "bolt on" MODs on the car your doing yourself a great disservice if you dont get a tune to make those MODs work to there maximum potential. After I got the first tune, It was like a whole new car. It changed the feel and sound of the car so profoundly that I still have not stopped smiling! I know that the tune voids the warranty but after experiencing how the tune completely and totally changed the feel, experience and the acceleration rate I would not even own the car if I could not do it. That's right. It changed the car so completely that if I had to buy another Camaro and was told that I could not tune it, I would not buy it. I would go get something else. Thats how profound it feels. All the street cars I have ever drove or experienced had nice firm or hard shifts and when you hit the throttle you had soothing to play with. The Stock Camaro with its HORRIBLE Torque management makes the car "soft". It shifts like transmission with the clutch packs half blown out of it. It shifts so soft and gives up so much power on the gear changes that it was actually pissing me off. A Trans should not shift like that in a high performance car ever! I did a lot of logging with the HpTuners software and e-mailed it to Mike at New Era. He e-mailed me a baseline tune to play with. Nothing to aggressive just somthing that he knew would be safe and fun. I flashed the tune into the car at 4:00p that evening. I was not expecting to feel and experience how profoundly it changed my entire experience with this car and I could not quite driving it until way into the wee hours of the next morning. After laying into the first time after the tune I thought," WOW I finally have a quick street car!". Not blinding fast mind you,, just quick. Thats all I wanted. I didnt want to run high 11s or even low 12s but a nice 12.80 or 12.90 would be just fine. The car will do that now no problem. It Barks the tires on the gear changes now and when it shifts (even at part throttle) it kicks you in the ass. After experiencing how profoundly a good tune can change this car, I now say SCREW THE WARRANTY! I dont want it. __________________ 2010 Camaro SS/RS IOM, 475rwhp 415ft/lbs Cam-232°/245° .612 .612 113LSA. Precision 3500 stall, New Era CAI. Reher Morrison Heads, Manifold and TB. Ferrea H-stems, dual springs, Ti-retainers. American Racing long tubes-Xpipe, High flow CATs, "S"type Borla's. 160F Thermo. VVT ACTIVE! Thanks to New Era Performance! Darin Morgan -Induction R&D-EFI calibration Reher-Morrison Racing Engines http://www.rehermorrison.com/rmSale3.htm Phone 817-467-7171 cell 682-559-0321

10-03-2009, 04:13 PM	#177
BlackM6RS/SS Drives: 2010 Black M6 RS/2SS Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Benbrook, TX Posts: 287	I agree there is nothing worse for a auto than slow soft shifts wearing out the bands way quick. Reminds me of my Buick GN 200-4r with a Art Carr shift kit, nice positive shifts. Glad you got it tuned quick to avoid those weak stock shifts __________________ 10 Blk/Blk RS/2SS w/CGM Stripes ADM H/C/I M6 480rwhp 435rwtq FE4 LCAs w/Pfadt ZL swaybars Diff bushings Trailing arms Drop springs

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rebelliondog206 Drives: 2010 2SS, IBM / BLK (10/09/09) Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Deer Park TX Posts: 28	Darin, I recently posted askng the question about whether tuning and bolt ons should be done, in your opinion, before or after the "break-in" period. Just above you state that "after" the break-in (1500-1800 miles)......"Its time to turn up the wick and change the car into a REAL quick street car." I have been collecting various aftermarket supplies in my garage (no car yet) and reading to see what others are doing and getting good results from. I guess I am still wondering what is best (I actually asked you before).....break-in with factory equipment, then change the parts and tune.......or, slap on the good stuff, then run the hell out of it? I am not planning to turn it into a 70,000 dollar vehicle, just looking for that little extra without having to get a part time evening job to pay for it. No time to drive then... Mine is off the railcar as of yesterday...40 miles away. Your thoughts?

10-07-2009, 09:03 AM	#182
rebelliondog206 Drives: 2010 2SS, IBM / BLK (10/09/09) Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Deer Park TX Posts: 28	With all the talk of the car "learning" during the first few miles of driving, I would guess then that it should 'learn' how it is supposed to breathe right away..... inhale (air intake) as well as exhale (the exhaust). Then tell it the way it is supposed to think and act (tune it), to release its inhibitions and to live to its potential. Makes sense to me. Let the fun begin......