NEW YEARS RESOLUTION WEIGHT LOSS THREAD 2012

[Speedy1975]

I hear ya. I only do it because it's quick and I'm impatient with such things. With 1-1.5 hours of weight lifting 3 times a week and other workouts on Tues and Thurs I just don't have the time for all the cardio and what not, so this gets the job done.

I'm adding in those complex carbs Crystal wants me to for the next 4 weeks so we'll see what happens. I'm hoping to prove her wrong that keto is the way to get it done, but maybe she'll end up being right. 1/4 cup of oats and 1/2 a sweet potato isn't very many though anyway.

[CFD]

Originally Posted by Speedy1975

I hear ya. I only do it because it's quick and I'm impatient with such things. With 1-1.5 hours of weight lifting 3 times a week and other workouts on Tues and Thurs I just don't have the time for all the cardio and what not, so this gets the job done.

I'm adding in those complex carbs Crystal wants me to for the next 4 weeks so we'll see what happens. I'm hoping to prove her wrong that keto is the way to get it done, but maybe she'll end up being right. 1/4 cup of oats and 1/2 a sweet potato isn't very many though anyway.

If you compared 4 weeks of Keeto to four weeks of a clean diet the Keto will burn more fat but what you may find here is one of two things. Adding the carbs may show some fat gain as it is typical after a Keto diet but it depends on the person and will most likely only be in week 1-2 and minimal where as it's a small amount of a good choice of carbs and then fat loss will resume. The other thing you may find is that Keeto diets , just like with other diets or exercise routines, they loose their effectiveness after a while and switching it up a bit may jump start fat loss again if you go back to a Keeto diet after the 4 weeks. I would keep very good track of your lean mass to fat ratio as well as how you"feel" and then after the 4 weeks decide where to go. I would rather see 6-8 weeks as the first two weeks your body will most likely be adjusting only leaving 2 real weeks to compare results but I'm interested in seeing the results.

[Jeffm]

havent posted in a while but wanted to let you all know im down to 390 pounds with all my clothes on down 22 pounds since Jan 11th 2012

[RubyCamaro]

"Lots of good info in here since I last posted. Ruby, you look fantastic...legs are definitely poppin!

I would try everything else before going to a Keto diet. I only do it because I have a lot of experience. Use it as a last resort to just drop those last few bits. I don't think you're at that point yet. "


Thanks Speedy1975.
Lots of good information here but.............................I still just don't know what to do. I guess now I will hold off on going full out Keto. I will look for some sort of body fat monitor, make some more diet changes, try really hard not to let anything make me miss any of my cardio classes 2-3 days per week (but that is about as many days as I can do). It puts me getting home around 7:30 PM & by the time I shower & eat it is bedtime. I just can't do that 5 days a week. Classes are in Nashville & they changed all the ones in my town to so early & can't make it there after work in Nashville. But If I don't start seeing some results. Keto it is. I am ready for this back & belly fat to Goooooooooooooooooo.

[Speedy1975]

I didn't realize you were so close to me Ruby. You can check out www.crossfithermitage.com That's where I go on Tues and Thurs nights and it's a lot of fun and a good workout, but be ready to get your ass handed to you. The workouts are setup in such a way that you do max effort for YOUR body. Pretty cool stuff.

Add in cardio on Saturday. Even if it's just a 30-40 min walk. Do it early in the day...before 9am preferably as that'll get the metabolism rockin early. If you can do your cardio in the morning it'll do you more good. Try adding a walk in the morning, it doesn't take a WHOLE lot to jump start the body. Try adding a 30 min walk on Tues and Thur morning before breakfast. DO NOT skip breakfast ever.

[CFD]

Originally Posted by RubyCamaro

"Lots of good info in here since I last posted. Ruby, you look fantastic...legs are definitely poppin!

I would try everything else before going to a Keto diet. I only do it because I have a lot of experience. Use it as a last resort to just drop those last few bits. I don't think you're at that point yet. "


Thanks Speedy1975.
Lots of good information here but.............................I still just don't know what to do. I guess now I will hold off on going full out Keto. I will look for some sort of body fat monitor, make some more diet changes, try really hard not to let anything make me miss any of my cardio classes 2-3 days per week (but that is about as many days as I can do). It puts me getting home around 7:30 PM & by the time I shower & eat it is bedtime. I just can't do that 5 days a week. Classes are in Nashville & they changed all the ones in my town to so early & can't make it there after work in Nashville. But If I don't start seeing some results. Keto it is. I am ready for this back & belly fat to Goooooooooooooooooo.

Hi Ruby. Don't be discouraged. The belly area is the last and most difficult to get rid of and even if you followed a Keto diet to the T it will not just dissapear. If you get the Accu-measure caliper I posted it will be more than adequate and inexpensive for tracking progress. Once you get some readings we can determine caloric needs. Also if you post your diet we can help make adjustments because this is what will help mthe most. You are already doing the exercise part. You must also understand that although I hate to admit it but our age does play a big role in how fast we can loose fat. As we age our bodies require more fat than when younger so it makes it even harder to loose. One other thing I just noticed, depending on what you are eating, in general, eating close to bed time is not a good idea, your body has no way to burn off calories when you are sleeping and it will most likely get stored. If you could eat your last meal earlier it would most likely be more beneficial but without seeing your diet and schedule we have no way of knowing.

[RubyCamaro]

That would be pretty tough to do. I am usually booked solidly with clients from 9:00 to noon, then eat lunch. Then booked again from 1:00 to 5:00. I can grab some snacks inbetween & usually manage to do so, but by the time I finish with my last client, change clothes & drive to class, I am often already a bit late for class. Class is 5:30 to 6:30 then a 50 min drive home to usually close to 7:30 when I get home. If I can I eat first then shower but that does not always work out. As for what I eat: every morning is my shake (:(I know you guys will fuss) unflavored/unsweetened soy powder, powdered milk, frozen fruit (I vary the fruits I use) & water plus a cup of coffee no sweetener just a bit of powdered milk. Snacks at work are usually my home made trail mix (almonds, pecans, walnuts, mixed dried berries, & a few dark chocolate covered raisins (a girl has to have a bit of chocolate). I mix them up then portion them out into snack baggies. I drink water, unsweetened tea (sometimes add a bit of honey) or coffee at work. Supper varies but is unprocessed, healthy & portion controlled. No, I don't have any idea how many calories, I have never tried to count calories. I eat pretty healthy on weekends too. Now I am also trying to be gluten free, still eat brown rice & whole grain rice/oat products (previously whole grain wheat only). I have been doing pretty much all this for a long time: healthy foods, cardio classes of some type & the morning shake. That is the general picture.

[kalimus]

Originally Posted by CFD

One other thing I just noticed, depending on what you are eating, in general, eating close to bed time is not a good idea, your body has no way to burn off calories when you are sleeping and it will most likely get stored. If you could eat your last meal earlier it would most likely be more beneficial but without seeing your diet and schedule we have no way of knowing.

I agree and disagree with this. Eating is what keeps your metabolism from slowing to a crawl (although also heavily debated). I generally don't have much in the line of carbs within about 3 hours of bedtime, but on the flipside of that, it benefits most people to eat somethign small within about 30-60 minutes before bed. I use a Casein protein. However there are lots of options. A little lowfat cottage cheese, a 1/2 peanut butter sandwich, greek yogurt, etc. Your body may not "burn" calories necessarily, but it still needs them to repair and maintain. If you sleep for 6-8 hours, you body is still using calories and is effectively "starving" during that time. I would recommend eating something high in protein and relatively low in fat/carb.

[CFD]

Originally Posted by kalimus

I agree and disagree with this. Eating is what keeps your metabolism from slowing to a crawl (although also heavily debated). I generally don't have much in the line of carbs within about 3 hours of bedtime, but on the flipside of that, it benefits most people to eat somethign small within about 30-60 minutes before bed. I use a Casein protein. However there are lots of options. A little lowfat cottage cheese, a 1/2 peanut butter sandwich, greek yogurt, etc. Your body may not "burn" calories necessarily, but it still needs them to repair and maintain. If you sleep for 6-8 hours, you body is still using calories and is effectively "starving" during that time. I would recommend eating something high in protein and relatively low in fat/carb.

This is why I said depending on what she is eating, if it is a high carb, especially a simple carb it is detrimental, Ideally a casien protein would be best as it is slow digesting, also a healthy fat combined might be ok as well as it will aid in slowing digestion and insulin spikes. Again sometimes what you eat is more important than when.

[CFD]

Originally Posted by RubyCamaro

That would be pretty tough to do. I am usually booked solidly with clients from 9:00 to noon, then eat lunch. Then booked again from 1:00 to 5:00. I can grab some snacks inbetween & usually manage to do so, but by the time I finish with my last client, change clothes & drive to class, I am often already a bit late for class. Class is 5:30 to 6:30 then a 50 min drive home to usually close to 7:00 when I get home. If I can I eat first then shower but that does not always work out. As for what I eat: every morning is my shake (:(I know you guys will fuss) unflavored/unsweetened soy powder, powdered milk, frozen fruit (I vary the fruits I use) & water plus a cup of coffee no sweetener just a bit of powdered milk. Snacks at work are usually my home made trail mix (almonds, pecans, walnuts, mixed dried berries, & a few dark chocolate covered raisins (a girl has to have a bit of chocolate). I mix them up then portion them out into snack baggies. I drink water, unsweetened tea (sometimes add a bit of honey) or coffee at work. Supper varies but is unprocessed, healthy & portion controlled. No, I don't have any idea how many calories, I have never tried to count calories. I eat pretty healthy on weekends too. Now I am also trying to be gluten free, still eat brown rice & whole grain rice/oat products (previously whole grain wheat only. I have been doing pretty much all this for a long time: healthy foods, cardio classes of some type & the morning shake. That is the general picture.

Ruby, Don't take this the wrong way but this is much to general to be helpfull. Also if you are not counting calories or at least have a good idea you will not succeed. I know counting cals and macro proportions is a pain in the ass but don't be fooled into thinking you wouldn't have to do it on a Keto diet, Keto diets are much more strict. You have to know what you are eating. I have no doubt that your diet is your biggest obstacle. I also can see your shedule is demanding but if you post it in more detail I don't care how difficult it is we can make suggestions that will help.

I honestly am not trying to preach to you, I can see you are trying your hardest and really want this and I know it is not easy but perhaps we can help make it easier. Many of us have some different opinions on small details but in general we all agree on the basics as it is the foundation you should be working with

[Speedy1975]

Originally Posted by RubyCamaro

That would be pretty tough to do. I am usually booked solidly with clients from 9:00 to noon, then eat lunch. Then booked again from 1:00 to 5:00. I can grab some snacks inbetween & usually manage to do so, but by the time I finish with my last client, change clothes & drive to class, I am often already a bit late for class. Class is 5:30 to 6:30 then a 50 min drive home to usually close to 7:00 when I get home. If I can I eat first then shower but that does not always work out. As for what I eat: every morning is my shake (:(I know you guys will fuss) unflavored/unsweetened soy powder, powdered milk, frozen fruit (I vary the fruits I use) & water plus a cup of coffee no sweetener just a bit of powdered milk. Snacks at work are usually my home made trail mix (almonds, pecans, walnuts, mixed dried berries, & a few dark chocolate covered raisins (a girl has to have a bit of chocolate). I mix them up then portion them out into snack baggies. I drink water, unsweetened tea (sometimes add a bit of honey) or coffee at work. Supper varies but is unprocessed, healthy & portion controlled. No, I don't have any idea how many calories, I have never tried to count calories. I eat pretty healthy on weekends too. Now I am also trying to be gluten free, still eat brown rice & whole grain rice/oat products (previously whole grain wheat only. I have been doing pretty much all this for a long time: healthy foods, cardio classes of some type & the morning shake. That is the general picture.

Ruby, all scheduling aside, you'll have to decide how bad you want it. I get up at 5:45am to get to the gym by 7am and fight an hour worth of traffic to do so on Mon, Wed, and Fri. Then I'm at work at 9am. On Tues and Thurs I do Crossfit and don't get home till almost 8pm. It just comes with the territory. I spend about 3 hours every Sunday cooking the majority of my meals for the week as well. It takes work.

I'd replace that morning shake with real food (3 egg whites, 1 slice turkey bacon, and 1/2 cup plain oats). Eat this after your morning walk. If you walk at 6:30am, then have this at 7am. Then at 9-10 have a shake, then your lunch at noon, some fruit and almonds at 3, then a snack before your class (jerky or Greek Yogurt and some no sugar added peaches). Then another shake and some natural peanut butter before bed.

Drop the chocolate and honey. Sugars like that cause insulin spikes which is basically a signal to your body to store fat in the mid section.

Originally Posted by kalimus

I agree and disagree with this. Eating is what keeps your metabolism from slowing to a crawl (although also heavily debated). I generally don't have much in the line of carbs within about 3 hours of bedtime, but on the flipside of that, it benefits most people to eat somethign small within about 30-60 minutes before bed. I use a Casein protein. However there are lots of options. A little lowfat cottage cheese, a 1/2 peanut butter sandwich, greek yogurt, etc. Your body may not "burn" calories necessarily, but it still needs them to repair and maintain. If you sleep for 6-8 hours, you body is still using calories and is effectively "starving" during that time. I would recommend eating something high in protein and relatively low in fat/carb.

Bingo

[CFD]

Originally Posted by Speedy1975

Ruby, all scheduling aside, you'll have to decide how bad you want it. I get up at 5:45am to get to the gym by 7am and fight an hour worth of traffic to do so on Mon, Wed, and Fri. Then I'm at work at 9am. On Tues and Thurs I do Crossfit and don't get home till almost 8pm. It just comes with the territory. I spend about 3 hours every Sunday cooking the majority of my meals for the week as well. It takes work.

I'd replace that morning shake with real food (3 egg whites, 1 slice turkey bacon, and 1/2 cup plain oats). Eat this after your morning walk. If you walk at 6:30am, then have this at 7am. Then at 9-10 have a shake, then your lunch at noon, some fruit and almonds at 3, then a snack before your class (jerky or Greek Yogurt and some no sugar added peaches). Then another shake and some natural peanut butter before bed.

Drop the chocolate and honey. Sugars like that cause insulin spikes which is basically a signal to your body to store fat in the mid section.



Bingo

" One other thing I just noticed, depending on what you are eating"

[CFD]

Originally Posted by Jeffm

havent posted in a while but wanted to let you all know im down to 390 pounds with all my clothes on down 22 pounds since Jan 11th 2012

That's great work, just keep with it and you will get there!!

[RubyCamaro]

One more entry then I need to work. In response to some of the above. #1... I HATE mornings. I am just not a morning person & never will be. I tried once & did really well for quite some time, getting up really early in the morning & doing a walk & exercizes. I did lose weight but I know my self too well. This is NOT something I will continue to do for very long and when I stop, I gain weight back. I know whatever I do needs to be stuff I can commit to doing long term. Okay maybe once I reach target weight I can back off some, but basicly I know it has to be based on lifestyle changes that are permanemt. So for me, getting up very early in the morning is never going to be a lifestyle change I will stick too. I hate getting up as early as I currently have to to go to work.

Counting calories: I know I need to do better at that. It is just so hard to do. I could probably manage to do it short term to lose the weight but I know it will be harder to maintain counting calories forever.

Detail? I guess I have to think about that some. I don't remember what you call various exercizes anymore. I used to know when I took college classes in weight training, body mechanics (exercizes) & Kinesiology but that was another lifetime now. The morning exercizes are stretches, abs work, squats, a couple of Bonnie's butt exercizes, legs stuff 20 to 30 min worth (depending on how early I can drag my butt out of the bed). My current cardio class is really intense. A solid hour of high intensity dance moves that would make you guys forget my age . I am dripping wet after class. I burn some SERIOUS calories & muscles are burning too (especially legs, butt, & abs less so upper body.

Food. Fruit in the shake is 1/2 a banana & the equivalent of 3 lg strawberries but may be blueberries, peaches, pineapple, strawberries, mango, (sometimes other berries) or some combination thereof. The snack portion I measure but not with a measuring cup (use a large ladel) so I will have to figure out how much of each thing it has worked out to be. Supper is usually a meat (chicken most of the time, sometimes beef, occasionally other meats but now will be more fish added) a veggie and sometimes a starch (now pretty much brown rice or corn tortillias, or gluten free crackers). I portion it out using a divided dish & stop eating when I am full no matter. But I get very hungry before bedtime & often end up drinking some milk (yeah, okay I'll admit it with some chocolate syrup - my weakness) or another snack (varies). Of course there are calories burned from frequent washes & detailing of Ruby & yard work. That is as much detail as I can think of right now. Got to work now (slow day here but still stuff to do). Thanks guys.