2013 Mustang GT500 MEGA THREAD

[eolson]

Hmmmm, the evidence so far is that the GT500 is 2-3 10ths faster 0-60, and 5/10ths in the 1/4 mile. Is this not what the times are showing?? Erik

[Fenderaddict2]

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

I keep saying that with regard specifically to Roadcourse use. While it is amazing what Ford has done with the SRA, but when it comes to the roadcourse, for me having driven IRS and SRAs, I feel more confident in the IRS. I predict the new GT500 with SVT-PP will be faster in a roadcourse than the ZL1 but if I were to drive both cars back to back, (given my level of average skill)I predict that I will be more comfident clipping corners, blasting in and out in the ZL1.


The FFR in my sig has SRA and believe me, while it rode like a go-kart around turns, it was a handful and made me work a lot in keeping things planted and pointed where I wanted to go..it was always a fine dance with power and quick reflex. On the other hand, I had a '95 M3 that was nothing in HP compared to the FFR but I was more confident driving fast in it, in roadcourse and especially in canyon roads. My '11 GT500 with SVT-PP is a blast to drive in roads with turns but like the FFR, it was easily upset by road imperfections....still excellent though. I am getting old, my reflex/reaction and concentration aren't as good as they used to be.

I no longer need to post. Just read ffrcobra's posts. Well except I still like to scared when tracking... He's probably older than me ;-)

[Blue Menace]

Originally Posted by hognutz

I was talking about GM using the ring ast a development ground. it has nothing to do with ford.

GM started there with Vetts, then the CTS-V, then the camaro. this devlopment method was not invented to combat ford anybody who belived this is just wrong.

that being said AL O. did say the ZL1 would one up the GT500 and I think it does the 2012 as an overall car. the 2013 though he has only said it will be faster around the track. which I think it will be.

for the minimal money to get to even HP I think a 600whp ZL1 will be faster around a track that a GT500. If I did not belive that I would be trying to convince my wife that she does not hate mustang and buy one.

Fair enough. Thanks for the response.
Oh, and I loved that last little bit...it reminds me of my wife (and beliefs).

[Blue Menace]

Originally Posted by DirtyAL

I think you may be late to the party so I will break the news to you slowly...'RING TIMES ARE SKEWED!!!! Every car maker has its little tricks to put up great times...ask Nissan about this. I just dont understand why ZL1owners keep putting all their chips on this subject. If 1/4 mile times didnt mean anything, why was it the first thing everyone was waiting for when people started taking delivery of them??? No one was interested in road course times, skid pad numbers, or 60-0 braking distance...come on man! Everyone was waiting for 1/4 times. And if you think GT500 fans are hanging their hats on those numbers...you are right because its important to know that the shelby will hand the ZL1 its @ss in a staright line. After all, thats what these cars were made to do back in the 60s and thats why we fell in love with them in the first place. Leave all that superior handling bragging to sports cars like the Vette & Viper and not to muscle cars like mustangs and camaros

I posted a rather interesting article on this very subject and it promptly got moved to another section. Seems I'm not the only one that believes the topic of ring times is ZL1 specific.

[Blueclyde]

Originally Posted by eolson

Hmmmm, the evidence so far is that the GT500 is 2-3 10ths faster 0-60, and 5/10ths in the 1/4 mile. Is this not what the times are showing?? Erik

Read the road and track review. It's a bit different. Let's wait to get a few of these out there before constructing any theories.

[BigHemiSrt]

Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79

A race to 60......... hmm this might be a drivers race, especially if the ZL1 is an Auto. MotorTrend has the Shelby at 3.5 and ZL1 at 3.8. The 3.5 the Shelby got was probably done with a very good driver. The ZL1 3.8 probably could be done by your grandmother in the auto.

Good driver?? Dude they have video of them using the lc to launch. 0-60 in the car is 3 easy steps

1. Set 2 step to desired rpm
2. Pedal to the floor
3. Dump clutch

Thats it being that the car does 62mph in first gear.

Give it up man. Stop trying to downplay the shelbys times. The car is flat out faster than the ZL1, it sure as hell doesnt need a perfect driver to out perform it.

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by eolson

Hmmmm, the evidence so far is that the GT500 is 2-3 10ths faster 0-60, and 5/10ths in the 1/4 mile. Is this not what the times are showing?? Erik

That's what half of the people who usually cry about magazine runs that aren't on the same day are saying.

[2ndCamaro79]

Originally Posted by BigHemiSrt

Good driver?? Dude they have video of them using the lc to launch. 0-60 in the car is 3 easy steps

1. Set 2 step to desired rpm
2. Pedal to the floor
3. Dump clutch

Thats it being that the car does 62mph in first gear.

Give it up man. Stop trying to downplay the shelbys times. The car is flat out faster than the ZL1, it sure as hell doesnt need a perfect driver to out perform it.

Zero to Sixty is a stoplight type race. At the light, I don't think the Shelby driver will have time to set up for LC. That being said hitting 60 in the first gear helps A LOT, but I still think VS auto ZL1 its a drivers race to 60.

[UBERJIM]

Originally Posted by DirtyAL

... since your so hell bent on handling and braking....

What a shame. I hope people aren't buying these cars based on this mentality. Point it in a straight line and mash the gas. That takes a bunch of skill . "Back in the day" that is all these cars could do. These cars have evolved into so much more since then. These cars are becoming closer to super cars at an affordable price than they are drag cars. What a waste of all the technology they have put into these cars.

[BigHemiSrt]

Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79

Zero to Sixty is a stoplight type race. At the light, I don't think the Shelby driver will have time to set up for LC. That being said hitting 60 in the first gear helps A LOT, but I still think VS auto ZL1 its a drivers race to 60.

Idk where your from but around these parts red lights takes at least a minute to turn green. Im certain it doest take any longer than that to set up lc. Also dont forget that 3.8 for the z was probably using its lc and without it the Z would be a bitch to launch to. Snap out of it.

[SlingShot]

Originally Posted by BigHemiSrt

Idk where your from but around these parts red lights takes at least a minute to turn green. Im certain it doest take any longer than that to set up lc. Also dont forget that 3.8 for the z was probably using its lc and without it the Z would be a bitch to launch to. Snap out of it.

That 3.8 is for the auto, and there is no LC for the auto ...

[tooslow]

Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79

Too Slow what did you buy?? I bet you bought a GT-R so you can poke fun at all of us, and call us Rubbish like Clarkson on Top Gear.

Hardly. While I can appreciate any make or model, I only buy American!

[Bad@ssCamaro]

Did you look in the stickies on top of the ZL1 forum?

[BigHemiSrt]

Originally Posted by SlingShot

That 3.8 is for the auto, and there is no LC for the auto ...

Hmm...guess its pretty impressive then