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*The_Blur* · 11-11-2008, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

Well, every other market in the world where GM is the most popular auto maker. Generally they have 10-25% market share wherever they go. So to think that its an inability for GM to make a car that the Japanesse people want is a bit absurd. They make plenty of small cars for europe and south east asia that sell well. Oh, and there is this. http://www.mac.doc.gov/japan/nte/2004nte.pdf
on page 31

The US market and the Japanese market are a few decades apart in history. Japan's market is what the US used to have before people decided the products were low in quality and poor in design. That gave Japan an opportunity to inject the US market with its products. For the US to be very successful in Japan, it is necessary to make their products seem inferior.

I like your quote from the Department of Commerce.

Stevo · 11-11-2008, 12:02 PM

more thinking here there are 556 million shares in GM and if 1 camaro ss = 10,000 shares then the value of all the company's stock = 56,000 camaro SS's ...so we could double GM's book value by buying -in cash- all of year one's production run of Camaros....or instead of buying the cars we just buy the company...then just take the cars, er, I mean allocate the cars for company business...

Hylton · 11-11-2008, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Stevo

more thinking here there are 556 million shares in GM and if 1 camaro ss = 10,000 shares then the value of all the company's stock = 56,000 camaro SS's ...so we could double GM's book value by buying -in cash- all of year one's production run of Camaros....or instead of buying the cars we just buy the company...then just take the cars, er, I mean allocate the cars for company business...

Stay in school dude.....

kdbolt70 · 11-11-2008, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Stevo

more thinking here there are 556 million shares in GM and if 1 camaro ss = 10,000 shares then the value of all the company's stock = 56,000 camaro SS's ...so we could double GM's book value by buying -in cash- all of year one's production run of Camaros....or instead of buying the cars we just buy the company...then just take the cars, er, I mean allocate the cars for company business...

I giggled.

Stevo · 11-11-2008, 12:42 PM

If I was some barely billionaire I'd buy all 556 million GM shares @ $2.81/share = $1.6billion, then I'd could get my mightly LS with a custom two tone silver/gray paint(aka my 86 F-Bird), gray leather stitched in silver, blade spoiler, and SS wheels...

Jamestwilliams · 11-11-2008, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by trm0002

There is a lot of truth to that statement. While you still have the option of buying an American vehicle, try to buy an American-made TV or toaster for that matter...

If you compare Canada to Mexico you are truly retarded.

shadowed_Stranger · 11-11-2008, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by fbodfather

Buy the bumper sticker (actually magnetic) that I have:

"Out of a Job Yet? Keep buying foreign!"

http://cgi.ebay.com/ONE-OUT-OF-A-JOB...1%7C240%3A1318

I was gonna buy that until I saw the union made part... they are killing our country.

trm0002 · 11-11-2008, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamestwilliams

If you compare Canada to Mexico you are truly retarded.

Who's comparing Canada and Mexico? I highlighted the part about actually finding something made in America.

Scotsman · 11-11-2008, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Max

I seen it comming,i knew one day this would happen.You cant keep sending our jobs over seas and expect us to have jobs to buy products.imports have killed this country.And it's to late to say buy American now when nothing is being built here.Camaro is built in canada,Ford and GM both use Mexican labor.

Very true. Well said.

Pushing_Tin · 11-11-2008, 03:35 PM

I'm curious how many of you "buy American" folks out there also shop at Wal-Mart? If so you've got absolutely no room to talk.

*GTAHVIT* · 11-11-2008, 03:53 PM

Buying american cars and speding a few dollars at wall mart here and there is a bit of an unfair comparrison.

I don't like where this is headed. Lets be respectful to each other and keep the antagonistic tone out of our posts. Everyone.

*The_Blur* · 11-11-2008, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by gtahvit

Buying american cars and speding a few dollars at wall mart here and there is a bit of an unfair comparrison.

I don't like where this is headed. Lets be respectful to each other and keep the antagonistic tone out of our posts. Everyone.

We're not out to call people hypocrites here. Let's keep it civil.

StoutFiles · 11-11-2008, 04:02 PM

We shouldn't be forced to buy American if America can't provide the best product. They work harder overseas and for less money, so they win. People are always going to make the best choice for them, not for their country.

America's middle class won't be around much longer...I suggest everyone get a good education because it's going to be much more important for the future.

bigralph · 11-11-2008, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by StoutFiles

We shouldn't be forced to buy American if America can't provide the best product. They work harder overseas and for less money, so they win. People are always going to make the best choice for them, not for their country.

America's middle class won't be around much longer...I suggest everyone get a good education because it's going to be much more important for the future.

So true.

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11-11-2008, 12:02 PM	#156
Stevo Drives: Camaro 2010 SIM Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 348	more thinking here there are 556 million shares in GM and if 1 camaro ss = 10,000 shares then the value of all the company's stock = 56,000 camaro SS's ...so we could double GM's book value by buying -in cash- all of year one's production run of Camaros....or instead of buying the cars we just buy the company...then just take the cars, er, I mean allocate the cars for company business...

11-11-2008, 12:42 PM	#159
Stevo Drives: Camaro 2010 SIM Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 348	If I was some barely billionaire I'd buy all 556 million GM shares @ $2.81/share = $1.6billion, then I'd could get my mightly LS with a custom two tone silver/gray paint(aka my 86 F-Bird), gray leather stitched in silver, blade spoiler, and SS wheels...

11-11-2008, 03:35 PM	#164
Pushing_Tin Drives: 2007 Honda Accord V6 Coupe Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Eugene, Oregon Posts: 92	I'm curious how many of you "buy American" folks out there also shop at Wal-Mart? If so you've got absolutely no room to talk.

11-11-2008, 04:02 PM	#167
StoutFiles Drives: Black/Black 2SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 732	We shouldn't be forced to buy American if America can't provide the best product. They work harder overseas and for less money, so they win. People are always going to make the best choice for them, not for their country. America's middle class won't be around much longer...I suggest everyone get a good education because it's going to be much more important for the future.