12-08-2023, 11:57 AM | #1429 | |
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Everything about capitalism is denied when this statement is applicable. And no, I'm not joking.
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12-08-2023, 12:21 PM | #1430 |
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...but, people who are sure they are smarter than us know this is all for our own good, so... I'm sure it will all end well.
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12-08-2023, 01:33 PM | #1432 | |
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12-08-2023, 01:55 PM | #1433 | |
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Not because of demand, or lackthereof, but because they see the writing on the wall and need to be well positioned to deal with those pressures.
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12-09-2023, 08:45 AM | #1434 |
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More electric vehicle news. I’m pretty sure that I mentioned somewhere in this thread that the major oil companies are now getting into the charging station business. I may have also mentioned that Shell’s network can claim the single biggest charging location in the world. I know I mentioned that lately, new BP stations going up in my area (Detroit Metro) are being built with charging stations. Well, there’s more news from BP…Another example of major corporations seeing the writing on the wall.
Now BP is spending $100M to install Tesla 250kW chargers at some of those stations. So who’s gonna sit at a BP station for 4 hours waiting for their car to charge? NOBODY. Because at 250 kW, most Teslas will charge from 20% SOC to 80% SOC in 25 - 40 minutes, depending on battery size. For my car that would take me from about a 65 mile range to a 260 mile range in about 25 minutes. Seeing as how I MIGHT do that 10 or fewer times over the course of a year, not a problem. Right now I wake up with 260 miles range every morning. We only charge to 80%.
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*Disclaimer
Rapid Chargers (AKA Battery Capacity Reducers) are only recommended for use under the following conditions. Failure to adhere to these recommendations will yield even worse results than already accepted negative impacts of fast charging.
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12-09-2023, 10:11 AM | #1436 | |
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Performance: It’s been demonstrated time and again that EVs are faster than ICE in a straight line, in some cases ridiculously so. Go to YouTube and look at Cybertruck vs F150 Raptor, Model S (pick a trim level) vs any BMW, Mercedes or Porsche (except maybe Porsche Turbo). Porsche Turbo vs Model S Plaid. Or Lucid Air. In my own garage, my Model Y Long Range is as fast as my Camaro SS e85 headers. A Model Y Performance would be faster. And it’s a freakin’ SUV. A Model 3 Performance would be no contest. Maybe the person on the street doesn’t know or care, but it is demonstrated time and again all over the internet. Zero Emission: EVs have zero in use emissions. Sure they have emissions involved in the manufacture of the cars and the batteries. So do ICE cars. EVs have more emissions in manufacture than ICE cars, but the in use emissions quickly offsets that. Again, the person on the street may not know or care. Willingness to Pay For: Somebody’s buying Tesla. Model Y is the 4th best selling nameplate in the US, behind F150, Silverado, and RAV4. Model 3 is 10th. Tesla as a brand is only outsold by Ford, Toyota, Chevrolet and Honda and as I type this they actually may have caught Honda, it’s that close. In studies done by S&P Global Mobility (full disclosure, I work for S&P Global Mobility) more than 60% of people in the market for a new vehicle have some interest in an EV for their next vehicle. Doesn’t mean that 60% will buy them, just that they have an interest. Survey size was 7,500.
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12-09-2023, 12:19 PM | #1438 |
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A pro-EV site, ironically, one that actually concedes some truths about negatives. I'd normally have to scroll to page 50 of Google results to find something besides Jalopnik with anything negative to say about our environmental salvation through government manupulation of the marketplace.
https://www.recurrentauto.com/resear...-fast-charging When is fast charging more likely to cause damage? There are several times when fast charging may have a bigger impact on your EV battery. Avoid fast charging in extreme heat without preconditioning your battery. Preconditioning is when the car’s thermal management system pre-cools the battery so it can accept a higher charge rate without overheating. Typically, if you set your car’s navigation to a fast charge station, the battery will be preconditioned. Similarly, precondition the battery before fast charging in extreme cold. Often, driving a bit before fast charging is enough to warm up the battery, or get to the fast charger using your car’s navigation. Avoid fast charging your EV at very low states or very high states of charge, since battery resistance will be higher. Yes, there are mitigations, but there is no escaping that fast charging reduces the lifespan/capacity of your battery and consequently reduces the equity/resale value of an EV. |
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12-09-2023, 01:42 PM | #1440 |
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I think that is similar to the question that was asked. People were screened by identifying those in the market to purchase a vehicle. Then one of the questions they were asked was whether they would consider an EV (or hybrid, or PHEV) for their next purchase. More than one choice is allowable, so you can say that you’d consider buying an EV and you’d consider buying a hybrid, et cetera.
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12-09-2023, 01:58 PM | #1441 |
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I truly believe the oversight of the manufacturers as well as the politicos that try to push their GT (Greta Thunberg) agendas are really doing a disservice to the EV market.
Among all the other things that potentially "scare" the public about EV ownership, there's not much that I see anyone doing to educate anyone on the benefits as well as potential pitfalls to BEV ownership. I think, in part, it's likely that once you get past the "because it's Green!", "renewable energy", "Zero tailpipe emissions", and "It's the #4 selling car in (fill in the blank)" stuff, is usually followed up with..."I got nothing". Because they stop talking. They NEVER just come out and tell you about the infrastructure status, either in hold-ups or advancements, they NEVER tell you about the range being pie in the sky BS just like ICE EPA estimates. Because that's all they are- estimates. YMMV. They don't bother telling potential owners about the extreme temperature power issues they may face. Basically, they hide the truth, or simply leave out the unsavory bits. Or point to an obscure information pamphlet or website saying "It's all in there..." Well, F.U. very much for letting people know up front. So do your own homework because very few of those boneheads are willing to tell you. Owning an EV, or any other fuel-sourced vehicle other than ICE, is going to be a learning curve for most people. A total lifestyle change. And a kick in the wallet up front. Some may be up for it, but some may not be. Or people buy an EV, get it home and call their insurance guy to get blind-sided by things like $3K+ per year to insure it? WTF? Not many people look into the insurance costs for EVs upfront when they consider ownership costs. And this is not to say that eventually, if/when EVs do become the majority on the road, no one is even discussing the gas tax replacement. Some municipalities may be, but it's a tree falling in the forest with nobody around if they are. So not only the further stresses on the grid, but the cost of electricity will be on the way up...a lot more than people want to think about. I can see a "charging tax" coming soon to an electric pump near you. Can't see it now, but I can't see how it won't in the future. Plus, the local/state governments need to figure out new ways to pile on more taxes on them. I don't think they've got that all ironed out yet. Either way, you will pay.
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12-09-2023, 02:36 PM | #1442 | |
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https://www.latimes.com/business/sto...a-range-claims Reuters reports that Tesla created a team to cancel service appointments en masse for customers complaining about battery-range shortfalls. https://www.reuters.com/investigates...tteries-range/ |
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