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But it all depends on your dealer. My current GM car is well out of warranty, but my Ford dealer could care less about my mods. Heck, they rebuilt my rear diff, even though my car has full aftermarket suspension, a converter, full exhaust and a tune. The techs actually commented on the mods after they did the work. Last edited by SS 1LE; 11-24-2015 at 03:19 PM. |
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11-24-2015, 01:53 PM | #30 | |
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11-24-2015, 02:08 PM | #31 | ||
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Here is a list of free options to keep CAGS (Computer Aided Gear Selection aka 'Skipshift') from engaging:
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11-24-2015, 09:30 PM | #32 | |
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11-25-2015, 06:00 AM | #33 |
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If you just drive the car like you're supposed to skip shift isn't even an issue. I put 1k miles on a 6th Gen and around the 800 mile mark had to ask if it even had skip shift. It doesn't activate unless you're driving like a grandma or in slow traffic etc.
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11-25-2015, 06:04 AM | #34 | |
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The skip shift solenoid is a performance feature which forces the driver to shift from first gear to fourth gear during light acceleration and low engine load conditions. This feature is used to ensure fuel economy and compliance with federal economy standards. The skip shift system consist of the following components: [*]The powertrain control module (PCM) .[*]The skip shift solenoid.[*]The skip shift lamp. With the ignition ON, battery voltage is supplied directly to the skip shift solenoid. The powertrain control module (PCM) controls the solenoid by grounding the control circuit. When the skip shift system is active the PCM also grounds the control circuit of the skip shift lamp. The lamp illuminates to inform the driver that the 1-4 skip shift is engaged. The PCM determines when the skip shift system is active when the following parameters are met:[*]The vehicle speed is between 24 - 31 km/h (15 - 19 mph) .[*]The engine coolant temperature (ECT) is greater than 77°C (171°F) .[*]The BARO is greater than 76 kPa.[*]The accelerator pedal position (APP) is less than 26 percent. When the conditions are met the powertrain control module (PCM) grounds the skip shift solenoid control circuit. This energizes the skip shift solenoid and mechanically blocks the gear shift lever from going in |
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11-25-2015, 07:31 AM | #35 |
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I would say that I see the 1 to 4 about 30% of the time when I drive but I am not driving for "best mpg". It is really simple to use as the backwards pull motion literally takes you to 4th from 1st so you don't even have to do anything extra work for it.
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11-25-2015, 10:35 AM | #36 | |
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But practically speaking you'd still be accelerating pretty hard with a 25% throttle opening when you have 455 hp on tap, especially since production cars don't have linear throttle ramps - which means that road speed at the point of the 1-2 shift will still govern the application of skip shift the vast majority of the time in day-to-day driving. So the question remains: What RPM in first gear is 24 kph? 31 kph? |
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11-25-2015, 11:37 AM | #37 | |
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11-25-2015, 11:47 AM | #38 | |
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24 kph/14.9 mph ~ 1800 rpm 31 kph/19.3 mph ~ 2350 rpm Don't think skip shift is going to be an issue for me, I'm used to upshifting around 3k rpm currently. The SS needs a 4.51 rear end, this super-long gearing is going to nearly obliterate the enjoyment of shifting, as you'll either be shifting barely above idle all the time like you're driving a diesel, or you'll hardly be shifting at all as any non-highway driving will be done in 1st and 2nd gear. Last edited by DevonK; 11-25-2015 at 12:11 PM. |
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11-25-2015, 05:09 PM | #41 |
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I bought the skip shift eliminator harness for my C7, but have not installed it yet. After a few months of dealing with the 2nd gear lockout something happened. I started having a reflex like action bouncing the shifter into neutral then back into 2nd. I find that this is easier than lifting the car to install the harness. Remember, the only time this happens is when you are accelerating very very slowly so you have plenty of time to bounce from neutral to 2nd.
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11-25-2015, 06:18 PM | #42 |
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CAGS debuted in the 1989 Corvette ZR-1 with the ZF designed 6 speed. While it's not made by GM, it was GM engineers who asked ZF to come up with a way to help improve fuel economy and avoid the then-new gas guzzler tax, or at least reduce it, while they were working with Lotus on the 32 valve V8 for the ZR-1. You're right that Tremec makes it but it debuted with the ZF designed transmission in '89, and GM carried CAGS through all V8, 6 speed equipped F-bodies, GTO, and G8 throughout the 1990s and early 2000s with Borg/Warner and Tremec transmissions.
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