2015 Challenger Hellcat 707 HP

[Denzien]

Originally Posted by Hell Cat 1

I bought the challenger because the ZL-1 is not as fast as it should be with the claimed 580 HP. They the ZL-1 runs from 12.0 to 12.3 at the track where the Hell Cat was certified. that being Pacific raceways in kent wa. I run 12.1 to 12.3 at that track. The ZL-1s that come out do not want to run me in my 392. I cut a good light and they get nervous and always screw up what should be a win for them. So they just avoid me as much as possible. I don't think I am better than them I am maybe a better driver. The 392 challenger SRT-8 is a fast car off the show room floor. The Hell cat is a faster car off the show room floor.

I had the choice of a used 2009 Challenger SRT or a new, fully loaded MINI Cooper S. I had a long commute at the time and was offered better financing with the MINI. Financially, it was a wash (fuel costs included) but the Challenger's insufferably poor interior and lack of technology turned me off. I didn't get to test a Camaro and the Ford Mustang GT's motor felt too "peaky" to me (though still better than the mod motor).

I test drove a 2012 SRT recently and the interior was much improved. The 2015 interior's looks and layout, though, have hit a home run on my expectations. Just need to sit in one to confirm.

I will have to look into the Camaro more though, to give it a fair chance. Maybe visit a dealer tomorrow and take one for a spin. Probably just an SS though.

[Hell Cat 1]

Originally Posted by motorhead

If you take the fast list on this very site for stock ZL1s and average them the car runs around a 12.3. My argument for the non believers of the 11.2 was that several folks have run 11. 4s so far which granted isn't many, but so far we are still a second slower than the hellcat. Math tells me that that isn't going to be made up with more challenger runs. If anything it will be worse for us. If we take what we know, 11.2, 11.4, 11.4 and 11.7. That's a 11.4 average. Face it boys, we loose on the drag strip. And remember, the charger is even faster. Facts are facts and I know you guys arguing the most know it too or you wouldn't have resorted to playground bickering and nonsense posts. In their defense, Hellcat 1 you haven't been nearly as respect as you claim to be and you are playing in their world.

I said show respect and you will receive it show disrespect and you shall receive it. I am not always right but I try not to sling mud unless its called for. I don't play I will show respect when I receive it.

[Denzien]

Originally Posted by motorhead

If you take the fast list on this very site for stock ZL1s and average them the car runs around a 12.3. My argument for the non believers of the 11.2 was that several folks have run 11. 4s so far which granted isn't many, but so far we are still a second slower than the hellcat. Math tells me that that isn't going to be made up with more challenger runs. If anything it will be worse for us. If we take what we know, 11.2, 11.4, 11.4 and 11.7. That's a 11.4 average. Face it boys, we loose on the drag strip. And remember, the charger is even faster. Facts are facts and I know you guys arguing the most know it too or you wouldn't have resorted to playground bickering and nonsense posts. In their defense, Hellcat 1 you haven't been nearly as respect as you claim to be and you are playing in their world.

What about that magnetic suspension though? I've been a fan of that for a long time (at least in concept)

[Hell Cat 1]

Originally Posted by Denzien

I had the choice of a used 2009 Challenger SRT or a new, fully loaded MINI Cooper S. I had a long commute at the time and was offered better financing with the MINI. Financially, it was a wash (fuel costs included) but the Challenger's insufferably poor interior and lack of technology turned me off. I didn't get to test a Camaro and the Ford Mustang GT's motor felt too "peaky" to me (though still better than the mod motor).

I test drove a 2012 SRT recently and the interior was much improved. The 2015 interior's looks and layout, though, have hit a home run on my expectations. Just need to sit in one to confirm.

I will have to look into the Camaro more though, to give it a fair chance. Maybe visit a dealer tomorrow and take one for a spin. Probably just an SS though.

The 2015 challenger scat-pac is the better bang for the buck. It comes with the 485 HP 392 and the brembo brakes the 3 mode suspension a 8.4 inch touch screen and much more. It can be had for under $40,000 with nav and premium sound system and leather seating. I don't think you will find one in a show room before the end of august.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by Hell Cat 1

I said show respect and you will receive it show disrespect and you shall receive it. I am not always right but I try not to sling mud unless its called for.

Yeah, like giving me crap when I'm on your side. You didn't need to quote the facts to me or whatever you claimed you were doing. I know the facts about those cars as well as anyone that isnt directly involved with them. I haven't seen you respect anyone here yet including people that are pulling for the hellcats. You have to earn respect and when you come on to a Camaro site to just strike up an argument you will get none. It's obvious what you are trying to do.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by Denzien

What about that magnetic suspension though? I've been a fan of that for a long time (at least in concept)

I love the suspension in the ZL1. It's the car's best attribute.

[Hell Cat 1]

Originally Posted by motorhead

Yeah, like giving me crap when I'm on your side. You didn't need to quote the facts to me or whatever you claimed you were doing. I know the facts about those cars as well as anyone that isnt directly involved with them. I haven't seen you respect anyone here yet including people that are pulling for the hellcats. You have to earn respect and when you come on to a Camaro site to just strike up an argument you will get none. It's obvious what you are trying to do.

I am old and may have gotten screwed up and posted that under your post when I should have directed to some on else. I am not starting any arguments but I am replying to some who choose to be hard to get along first. So if I offended you I can tell you it was unintentional.

[Runin11z]

Originally Posted by motorhead

I love the suspension in the ZL1. It's the car's best attribute.

X100 without the MRC the ZL1 would have failed miserably, it's what makes the car a pure pleasure to drive...

[Front Runner]

Originally Posted by Hell Cat 1

The 2015 challenger scat-pac is the better bang for the buck. It comes with the 485 HP 392 and the brembo brakes the 3 mode suspension a 8.4 inch touch screen and much more. It can be had for under $40,000 with nav and premium sound system and leather seating. I don't think you will find one in a show room before the end of august.

Just FYI.......

The 15 Challenger Scat Pack doesnt come with 3 mode adjustable suspension. That comes on current SRT's only. It does has the 08-11 (SRT) performance (non-adjustable suspension). It also doesnt have several other options that are standard on the 15 SRT premium.

[URBAN LEGEND]

We are back!

[Whos_Drivin]

Originally Posted by Runin11z

X100 without the MRC the ZL1 would have failed miserably, it's what makes the car a pure pleasure to drive...

That and the fact it had more hp than ford or dodge when it was released in 2012...

[SEVEN-OH JOE]

Speaking of facts:

Originally Posted by Hell Cat 1

The 2015 challenger scat-pac is the better bang for the buck. It comes with the 485 HP 392 and the brembo brakes the 3 mode suspension.

Originally Posted by Front Runner

Just FYI.......

The 15 Challenger Scat Pack doesnt come with 3 mode adjustable suspension. That comes on current SRT's only. It does has the 08-11 (SRT) performance (non-adjustable suspension). It also doesnt have several other options that are standard on the 15 SRT premium.

Originally Posted by Hell Cat 1

I am old and may have gotten screwed up

No one's perfect.

[SEVEN-OH JOE]

Originally Posted by motorhead

I love the suspension in the ZL1. It's the car's best attribute.

Originally Posted by Runin11z

X100 without the MRC the ZL1 would have failed miserably, it's what makes the car a pure pleasure to drive...

Originally Posted by Whos_Drivin

That and the fact it had more hp than ford or dodge when it was released in 2012...

Redemption.

[SEVEN-OH JOE]

Originally Posted by rocket403

Well here is one under 11.7

BandimereCor - 11.52s @ 124.73mph = (11.52/124.73)/1.46*60 = 3.796s (0-60mph) (Bandimere DA corrected time)

That makes TWO cars in the hands of Joes and/or Josephines. Both Automatics, too.

Progress.