2015 Challenger Hellcat 707 HP

[tones2SS]

Originally Posted by SEVEN-OH JOE

Now, THAT'S "viral" marketing propaganda. In spades.
If the engine makes 800+, then the dyno confirms it has a 20%+ driveline loss. And I don't think that's quite the case. We KNOW it's a Clydesdale, but in this case it must have CRUSHED the dyno drum from excessive weight.
If that was true, "months ago", perhaps, by the time they got it in production, it was past its "Best Before" date?!

That is why I said this;...............

Originally Posted by tones2SS

I need to see an actual dyno with a video camera and see the numbers up on the screen to be fully convinced. I like good hard proof. Not saying these are false or real numbers, just like to see hard proof to take away any doubt.

[tones2SS]

Originally Posted by BaylorCamaro

Who cares about dyno numbers, real world performance numbers are what really matter.

Also, more importantly (to me, but not most people) the Challenger fell short on the figure eight which gives an indication of its handling ability. I'm curious as to what laps times will be for the Hellcat, as no doubt the huge horse power advantage will mask some of its short comings in the handling department.

Yes and no on the dyno numbers. We're all obsessed with HP and TQ numbers. That's pretty much why the HC is starting all sorts of craziness. lol And that's why we advertise our HP and Tq numbers too.
As for the the HC on the lap times, I don't think they released a video of the HC bringing the heat on the lap? I'd like a link in case I didn't see it please to personally see how it did.

[Runin11z]

Originally Posted by BaylorCamaro

Who cares about dyno numbers, real world performance numbers are what really matter. The ZL1 ran a 12.2 which isn't that surprising and seems in line with other reports. But the 10.80 NHRA certified Challenger Hellcat only ran an 11.70? That's what I'm surprised about. In the eight speed AUTOMATIC no less.

Also, more importantly (to me, but not most people) the Challenger fell short on the figure eight which gives an indication of its handling ability. I'm curious as to what laps times will be for the Hellcat, as no doubt the huge horse power advantage will mask some of its short comings in the handling department.

This is where the ZL1 is going to have a considerable margin over the HC unless the track has an ungodly long straight section...

[URBAN LEGEND]

75 percent of you have never been on a track. Stop already with track shit.

[1QwikZ28]

Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

75 percent of you have never been on a track. Stop already with track shit.

Good luck with that...its their only saving grace. Meanwhile in the real world, ZL1s are getting their asses handed to them at the strip and street by GT500s and Challengers. But wgaf, just bust out the orange cones and prove to them who is king of the course

[URBAN LEGEND]

Originally Posted by 1QwikZ28

Good luck with that...its their only saving grace. Meanwhile in the real world, ZL1s are getting their asses handed to them at the strip and street by GT500s and Challengers. But wgaf, just bust out the orange cones and prove to them who is king of the course

You are out of control. Thst was a good laugh!

[BaylorCamaro]

Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

75 percent of you have never been on a track. Stop already with track shit.

I'm sure it's closer to 95%. However having said that, I have never been on the drag strip with my ZL1 and have Autocrossed and Road Course raced it several times. So I'll talk as much track shit as I want.

[URBAN LEGEND]

Originally Posted by BaylorCamaro

I'm sure it's closer to 95%. However having said that, I have never been on the drag strip with my ZL1 and have Autocrossed and Road Course raced it several times. So I'll talk as much track shit as I want.

Go ahead 5 percenter!

[BaylorCamaro]

Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

Go ahead 5 percenter!

Thanks!

It's the minority that makes the loudest roar, am I right?

[07-SRT]

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=372477

Hmmmm....ZL1 forum talking about how to drag race..... that's odd....

[SEVEN-OH JOE]

Originally Posted by tones2SS

I need to see an actual dyno with a video camera and see the numbers up on the screen to be fully convinced. I like good hard proof. Not saying these are false or real numbers, just like to see hard proof to take away any doubt.

That's called "hedging" your bet. Speaking of which:

Originally Posted by Runin11z

I'm a betting type of man and I'm willing to wager ($200) to you that enthusiasts will run better times than what is claimed by Dodge... Whatcha say are you game...

Send me the 10 $20 bills, and when "enthusiasts" (perhaps you'd like to more clearly define this?) are regularly running "better times", I'll send you $400 back.

THAT'S a hedged bet, too.

[Runin11z]

Originally Posted by SEVEN-OH JOE

That's called "hedging" your bet. Speaking of which:



Send me the 10 $20 bills, and when "enthusiasts" (perhaps you'd like to more clearly define this?) are regularly running "better times", I'll send you $400 back.

THAT'S a hedged bet, too.

It's pretty simple how it works, as soon as a fast list is established.. I'm saying the HC will go beyond manufacturer claimed times period, no special stipulations (you have nothing to worry about as "MT hot shoes" only ran a 11.7)... Unless you are willing to concede to that point right now... Then we can create a breakdown from there...

I'm willing to paypal a third party of your choice right now, with a confirmation that you've done the same in the form of a screenshot....

[tones2SS]

This is getting good.
I bet the HC surprises a lot of people as well. But,....I'm no betting man.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

75 percent of you have never been on a track. Stop already with track shit.

I'm signed up for Road America's next HPD in October.

It would be interesting to know what percentage have never drag raced at a strip either