Mustang 5.0

[Dave McFly]

Originally Posted by ColdCamaroSS

Nah, that was me passing you. Sorry about that.

[BigHemiSrt]

Originally Posted by maroman1138

You blue oval guys crack me up. Just admit that it is true that the rustang does not have the same power output than the Camaro or Challenger and it is most definitely a weight advantage. Just admit it guys. You guys really think you've got the quickest car out there don't you? Then you guys get really mad and defensive when people tell you different. It's really sad. I guess if it's the only real "sports car" ford has, I would expect it to be defended until the death. Imagine if you will an LS3 SS with the weight of the rustang, shi$, we'd be killing ourselves in these things, especially modded? Forget about it. Please don't bring up the Vettes and their weight with the power they are putting out. Thats a
whole different animal. Yea I'm startin' sumptin.

U made me LOL... Youre correct about weight being it biggest advantage, but to hear u say if the Camaro was the weight of a Mustand ppl would be killing themselves, is just ridiculous. How much more does the camaro weigh? 300lbs? If you cant handle a LS3 in a 3000lb car much less a 3500lb car then you sir dont need to be driving. Theyre MUCH MUCH more powerful cars out there that are even lighter than the mustang and ppl killing themselves in them is anything but the norm.

[nester7929]

Originally Posted by maroman1138

You blue oval guys crack me up. Just admit that it is true that the rustang does not have the same power output than the Camaro or Challenger and it is most definitely a weight advantage. Just admit it guys. You guys really think you've got the quickest car out there don't you? Then you guys get really mad and defensive when people tell you different. It's really sad. I guess if it's the only real "sports car" ford has, I would expect it to be defended until the death. Imagine if you will an LS3 SS with the weight of the rustang, shi$, we'd be killing ourselves in these things, especially modded? Forget about it. Please don't bring up the Vettes and their weight with the power they are putting out. Thats a
whole different animal. Yea I'm startin' sumptin.

The 5.0 is underrated with the 412-hp rating given from Ford, and is more in line with the 425-ish of the 6.1 HEMI and the LS3. That's not just our opinion, numerous auto rags have found this to be true. I don't know why people like YOU get so offended when all we're doing is stating objective facts about the numbers.

If anything, I think you're the one with the inferiority complex here. Nobody said anything about the 5.0 being the fastest car out there, and while the Corvette is much lighter and faster than the Mustang I don't know what that has to do with anything. The OP asked about the power and weight of the 5.0 relative to the Camaro and Challenger, and that's what I was addressing.

The 5.0 isn't perfect (I'd rather have the suspension and manual tranny of the Camaro for example), but you can't get that pissed when people are just giving known performance numbers.

[scrming]

All I know is I have actually beaten a couple of Camaro SSs, but I have yet to beat a new 5.0 yet... For what ever reason, power, live axle, etc, it seems that the average driver can pull off better times in a 5.0 than an SS...

[maroman1138]

I was not mad about anything. But I just proved my point about you guys getting your panties ruffled. I don't really care what you write, facts are facts. And didn't I just write, don't bring up the Vette? They are made specifically to their design and power. I'm talking about our class of vehicle. And yes 300lbs does make a difference, that's what makes the Rustang a wee bit quicker. Go back and read what I wrote again. Geez, some people.

[maroman1138]

Originally Posted by scrming

All I know is I have actually beaten a couple of Camaro SSs, but I have yet to beat a new 5.0 yet... For what ever reason, power, live axle, etc, it seems that the average driver can pull off better times in a 5.0 than an SS...

And you sir have not beaten a 5.0 but have beaten a couple of SS's? Let's just think about that for a moment.

[StentS]

But the Mustang has more balls.... just ask the guy who owns this one

[Crowley]

Originally Posted by Shovan

Am I correct saying that the 5.0 doesn't produce more power than the challenger (6.1) and the camaro but that it just runs faster because it weighs less? The playing field will be different when Chevy & Dodge put their engines in lighter cars? Props to ford but Am I correct?

The playing field will be different, but you can bet that the next generation mustang will be lighter as well. Should make things very interesting on the next generation for all three.

Crowley

[maroman1138]

Originally Posted by Crowley

The playing field will be different, but you can bet that the next generation mustang will be lighter as well. Should make things very interesting on the next generation for all three.

Crowley

Indeed. It will be very interesting.

[scrming]

Originally Posted by maroman1138

And you sir have not beaten a 5.0 but have beaten a couple of SS's? Let's just think about that for a moment.

Nothing to think about... I believe the SS is harder, for whatever reason, to pull off a "magazine" time then the 5.0.... pretty simple...

Doesn't matter what all the specs say or the dyno sheets say... the only thing that matters is the ETs on the timeslip...

[07-SRT]

I don't believe the 5.0 does in my experience...( Stock vs Stock) including factory tires... When I was stock I didn't have (1) 5.0 pull on me...Maybe they cant drive
I had one that stayed at my rear door the whole 1/4... If they produced more hp he should have gained on me.........( lets not forget my car weighs 4,350 with me in it)....

[MauriSSio]

Originally Posted by 07-SRT

I don't believe the 5.0 does in my experience...( Stock vs Stock) including factory tires... When I was stock I didn't have (1) 5.0 pull on me...Maybe they cant drive
I had one that stayed at my rear door the whole 1/4... If they produced more hp he should have gained on me.........( lets not forget my car weighs 4,350 with me in it)....

thats the power of the bad driver! just look at all the info thats out there. look at the dyno sheets and dyno vids.

Originally Posted by maroman1138

I was not mad about anything. But I just proved my point about you guys getting your panties ruffled. I don't really care what you write, facts are facts. And didn't I just write, don't bring up the Vette? They are made specifically to their design and power. I'm talking about our class of vehicle. And yes 300lbs does make a difference, that's what makes the Rustang a wee bit quicker. Go back and read what I wrote again. Geez, some people.

just look at all the real world numbers that are out there. Its all out there, the 5.0 routinely makes the same or more HP to the wheels. Its not really something you can argue against, so im not sure why youre trying to rile up those 5.0 owners. Also, look at the bolton guys, the average bolton guys (according to the fast list) are trapping 112-113mph and the mustang dudes are up to 116-117mph.

[Truck Norris]

Originally Posted by RANGERGOD

The mus-stank does NOT put out more power than either. They have a very good rear end though.

Just for reference the 5.0L engine does make more power then the 6.2L L99/LS3 and 6.1L Hemi, 444hp to be exact from the stock 5.0L in the Boss.

Now if we are strictly talking base 5.0L's in Mustangs and not the e85 capable 5.0L in the f-150 pick ups it comes down to a lot more then just more then weight.

The main reason I think its quicker is because of the 5.0L's ability to rev higher and be in its power band longer all the way to its redline vs the LS engine that has a shorter power window and falls off the closer you get to redline. The next reason would be its shorter gearing in the transmission, not in the rear end because the quickest mustangs run the tallest gears like 3.15's and 3.31's.

Low end LS grunt doesn't really pay off at the track because its only in the low revs for less then half a second through out the whole run vs these 5.0L's are that are launching at 6,000rpm and never see anything less then 5,000rpm down the strip.

I say these things somewhat based off of what I see once equal mods are added to each car but it still hold true for stock vs stock.

[TheReaper]

Originally Posted by 07-SRT

I don't believe the 5.0 does in my experience...( Stock vs Stock) including factory tires... When I was stock I didn't have (1) 5.0 pull on me...Maybe they cant drive
I had one that stayed at my rear door the whole 1/4... If they produced more hp he should have gained on me.........( lets not forget my car weighs 4,350 with me in it)....

Line up with a stock 6R80 auto 5.0 and see what happens. All I do is press the pedal and go.